Live 5.2 disarms recording track after fixed period (~2hrs)

Sly One · Post by **Sly One** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 12:09 am

I set up live to record an 8-hour live show today, from a simple 2-channel feed running off a desk into a single audio track on Live. Simple, you might think. Click and leave it, yes?

Everything was working fine at the beginning, but I left it and came back a couple of hours later to find Live still recording but the track disarmed (so it wasn't recording anything).

I cursed a great deal (it was my band that was missed!), assumed some idiot had been fiddling, and re-armed the track. It continued recording. I came back a couple of hours later to find the same thing had happened, and we'd lost the headliner's set too.

I checked the length of the two recorded clips and they were both, IIRC, 4500.1.2 exactly - just over 120 mins.

So, it's clear that Live stops recording clips when they reach a fixed length.

Has anyone else hit this? Seems a bit of a tragic bug - it really let me down today and I'm going to have to use another product for live recordings in future unless it's fixed...!

Cheers

longjohns · Post by **longjohns** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 12:20 am

there are quite possibly some OS file size issues happening, it might not be Live

longjohns · Post by **longjohns** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 12:26 am

Limitations

The WAV format is limited to files that are less than 4 GiB in size, due to its use of a 32 bit unsigned integer to record the file size header (some programs limit the file size to 2 GiB). Although this is equivalent to about 6.6 hours of CD-quality audio (44.1 kHz, 16-bit stereo), it is sometimes necessary to go over this limit.

maybe you were using a higher bit rate or sample rate??

Tarekith · Post by **Tarekith** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 2:52 am

I thought it was 2GB by default in XP?

longjohns · Post by **longjohns** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 3:20 am

Under Windows XP and Windows 2000, NTFS supports a maximum file size of up to the disk size, while FAT32 supports a maximum file size of only 4 GB.

(from looking around the web, it appears XP/ NTFS can handle potentially 2TB (!!) partitions)

but the .wav limitation may be coming into play

Sly One · Post by **Sly One** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 11:55 pm

6.6 hours at 16 bit? You'd've thought I'd get more than 2 hours at 24 bit/44.1khz, which was what I was using...

Interesting though...

longjohns · Post by **longjohns** » Tue Oct 31, 2006 3:10 am

well, possibly live is limiting the .wav file to 2G,

if that were 3.3@ 16/44.1,

then i could see it being 2.2 @ 24 bit (????)

close

anyway, in the same wikipedia article, there is mention of another file format, .w64 i think, which is used in sound forge. so maybe try that

longjohns · Post by **longjohns** » Tue Oct 31, 2006 3:14 am

or for example, when i used to use sonar, it had a feature where you could record onto new tracks each time it looped, so you could set like a 1 3/4 hour loop length and let it go, then edit together the tracks when it was done.

just another idea

square_eyes · Post by **square_eyes** » Wed Aug 03, 2011 7:56 am

Great idea. Now Live just need to come up with a feature that does this in the background, and strings them together seamlessly on playback.

Live 5.2 disarms recording track after fixed period (~2hrs)

Live 5.2 disarms recording track after fixed period (~2hrs)

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