Panther External HD Warning

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red_wedge
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Panther External HD Warning

Post by red_wedge » Mon Oct 27, 2003 8:41 pm

Just been reading about some problems with external firewire hard drived that get f**ked up when upgrading to Panther... and seeing as many of you will have these for audio work, bear this in mind:

Disconnect your external drive when you run the installer. Only plug it back in when you have restarted and logged in.

There have been numerous reports of Panther rendering the HD's unreadable, and I'd hate that to happen to anyone!

check out www.macintouch.com for more detailed info

red

Guest

Post by Guest » Mon Oct 27, 2003 10:50 pm

Yes do as above!

I lost 80GB when going from 9.2 to 10.2 ,including a years worth of my tracks as well as all my audio files, mp3, reason refills etc.

This was one of the lowest points of my life (no j/k) I not sure how serouse everyone on here is about making music but for me it was about 100 finished tracks down the shitter. I can not tell you what I would give to have some of those tracks with me today! I can still hear them in my head sometimes when I sleep! From than on of course I have everything of that much importance backed up. But please everyone dont forget to not only turn off but unplug your external hard drives when installing Panther. Also I would suggest doing the same with software updates as I have heard problems with people extenal HD crashing when installing 10.2.8 and 10.2.3. Be ware!

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internal too?

Post by divisional » Tue Oct 28, 2003 12:10 am

Has anybody heard of the same thing happening to a second internal drive? All my stuff is stored on there, and I have been through many successfull clean installs of System software on the main drive... but this Panther thing has me worried. I suppose I should find a way to back this 40gig HD up!

Guest

Post by Guest » Tue Oct 28, 2003 6:43 pm

Hey, I'm really sorry for anyone who has lost data on a drive (I've been there). However, this is no joke: BACKUP!

You must back up, or else you're going to lose data eventually, some day, some where, some how.

When you've got a pile of cash that you want to keep, you put it in a bank.
When you have items of value in your home, you put a lock on the door and take out insurance.

When you're creating digital media and information, you back it up and archive.

It comes with the territory, along with a good utility program. For example, I use DiskWarrior by AlSoft on a Mac to ensure to the best of my ability that the file system directory is accurate. Did I WANT to spend $ 80-100 on something that I would hopefully never need?

Nope.

Was it the best $80-100 dollars ever spent, when three months later my HD "failed"?

Yup - absolutely 100%.

My recommendation: do a little bit of research and locate a good, basic filesystem utility and backup utility. The next time you have extra cash, don't go out to eat, don't rent or watch a movie, don't buy a new softsynth or video game. DO purchase the backup software and filesystem utility.

If you're serious about using computers as a tool for personal pleasure or for work, take it seriously. One misplaced zero on your HD can render all your hard work, your creative output, and perhaps your business, null and void.

If you're NOT serious about the toolset, or can roll with the punches when they come, disregard the above and just enjoy.

Good luck

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Post by red_wedge » Wed Oct 29, 2003 12:41 pm

While that is undoubtedly good advice, I think the problem is most of the people affected did back everything up - to the very same hard drive that was affected by the update.

So I guess backing up twice would be even wiser!

Release

Regarding backing up................

Post by Release » Wed Oct 29, 2003 2:17 pm

If I get a firewire HD for my laptop can u back everything up as a whole (i.e a mirror image incl. all progs audio files etc) ??

It's something i've been wanting to do for a while!

Or is it not as straight forward as that???

Cheers

Release :?

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Re: Regarding backing up................

Post by red_wedge » Wed Oct 29, 2003 2:44 pm

Release wrote:If I get a firewire HD for my laptop can u back everything up as a whole (i.e a mirror image incl. all progs audio files etc) ??

Yes.

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carbon copy cloner

Post by rasda » Wed Oct 29, 2003 6:46 pm

for all you osx users out there.
you should try carbon copy cloner for your backups.
It backups your whole system in a .dmg file (depends on the settings you do in ccc).
great one.
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Jed

Post by Jed » Wed Oct 29, 2003 8:10 pm

Backing up to the same media is not backing up. You should have several different media with backups on them - whether drives, DVD, Tape, or CD. Getting Retrospect Express (dantz.com) will enable you to make incremental BU's, as well as introduce backup histories. Best $50 you could spend (besides Diskwarrior or Techtools)

jed

Post by jed » Wed Oct 29, 2003 8:11 pm

Pardon - my above post was in response to comments earlier in the thread, not rasda - should have made this more clear,sorry.
:o

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Post by Pitch Black » Fri Oct 31, 2003 3:56 am

A Wise Man (well my friend and Mac guru Ross) once said:

"Data that doesn't exist in two places doesn't exist"

Oh so so true...

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