Is Live your only DAW?

homerjsim · Post by **homerjsim** » Mon Dec 25, 2006 5:35 am

Hey just curious - (if this hasn't been asked before) - how many people get by with just Live, and how many people used another DAW for production-intensive stuff (and maybe rewire to Live just for loops)?

The reason I ask is because for me, the Arrange page has some limitations -

1. no play-from-last-start-point hot key
2. no easy bypass grid hot key when dragging clip start/end/placements
3. any monitoring changes made while recording a track get recorded as automation even if that track isn't rec-enabled! ...this one really gets me
4. no per-track midi volume automation - to me this make a lot more sense up in the track rather than down in the midi clip - at least give us a choice in prefs...

I'm just wondering whether other people have Arrange page issues and if so, do they have workarounds or do they just use another application?

Brian

p.s. I've whined about this before, but if I have a clip in the sample editor window I've been working on, and then I click somewhere in blank space up on the Arrange page just as a way to set a new playback start point, I don't want my clip to disappear from the editor window!!! (i.e. "No clip selected") It's kind of obvious, but the clip editor window should only try to chase my clicking if I.... ***click on another clip*** !!!

the_viirus · Post by **the_viirus** » Mon Dec 25, 2006 5:42 am

Contra · Post by **Contra** » Mon Dec 25, 2006 6:07 am

yes yes....although have to edit samples external (chopping) not feeling the arrange window way of chopping, unless there's a easy way like chopping in pro tools or logic, inside of Live that i dont know about.

longjohns · Post by **longjohns** » Mon Dec 25, 2006 6:18 am

space bar plays from the last start point

ctrl +4 turns off the grid

Contra · Post by **Contra** » Mon Dec 25, 2006 6:29 am

longjohns wrote:space bar plays from the last start point

ctrl +4 turns off the grid

was that directed to me?

is the grid the bars in arrange mode?

capta1nA · Post by **capta1nA** » Mon Dec 25, 2006 6:36 am

i have logic express, but i prefer to use just live. i have some more ram to install now, so maybe that will change

longjohns · Post by **longjohns** » Mon Dec 25, 2006 6:36 am

no that was directed at the first two complaints in the original post, sorry

mdk · Post by **mdk** » Mon Dec 25, 2006 7:36 am

I use energyXT as well.

Sometimes by itself, sometimes as a plug-in within live.

Pasha · Post by **Pasha** » Mon Dec 25, 2006 7:53 am

Live only here + Audacity to work out samples

djfm · Post by **djfm** » Mon Dec 25, 2006 7:55 am

i did use cubase but now live 6 is here. I dont need it. Live is all i need messing around exporting loops from another application is long winded imo
when it comes to arranging a track i suck so i play my track and record a rough arrangment then tweek simple

kooki415 · Post by **kooki415** » Mon Dec 25, 2006 8:39 am

live+max/msp

but i guess max isnt a daw..

..or is it

DJ VAKIS · Post by **DJ VAKIS** » Mon Dec 25, 2006 8:45 am

donnydonny · Post by **donnydonny** » Mon Dec 25, 2006 9:24 am

I rewire Live to Cubase for pretty much every track I do with vocals. It's sweet for vocal editing/arranging. The main things that prevent me from only using Live are:

1. properly functioning group tracks
2. a folder track-like function (like in Cubase) that will allow me to minimize the view on X amount of assigned tracks tracks

And that's about it. I constantly tell myself that for pretty much these 2 reasons alone, it's ridiculous that I'm not making the complete switch. Those 2 things are really that important to me, though, in order to have a steady workflow.

Starting to get sidetracked... but yea... that's my long short answer.

sebovzeoueb · Post by **sebovzeoueb** » Mon Dec 25, 2006 9:33 am

It is pretty much now, I just use Tracktion for mastering, because the FinalMix plugin is not Universal Binary... Vocals can be good through FinalMix too (but I don't do much vocal work).

Contra · Post by **Contra** » Mon Dec 25, 2006 11:07 am

longjohns wrote:no that was directed at the first two complaints in the original post, sorry

well u seem to have answered my complaint only, now i turn off grid mode.
no more pro tools.

bye bye digi design.