CME 5 MIDI controller , how well does it

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CME 5 MIDI controller , how well does it

Post by 4amStudios » Wed Dec 27, 2006 3:44 am

intergrate with Live 6 ? Any of the CME products for that fact

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Post by scottwallis » Wed Dec 27, 2006 12:24 pm

I assume you are on about the CME UF5 midi controller keyboard...If so then ive been looking to buy that as well....been doing a lot of reading up on it and it looks ace....

I would imagine it would integrate quite well with ableton 6 as you would just assign what parameters you want to control to what knob or fader you want on the keyboard.....

The only down side i have read about so far regarding this keyboard is apparently the usb function is poor, so best to just use the midi cables for connecting it...

Hope this helps you my friend!!

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Post by v00d00ppl » Wed Dec 27, 2006 7:53 pm

yea, it looks like a winner, i touched the keys before.they feel excellent...as long as you have a midi port on your soundcard i would connect it there instead..................and just use the usb port to power it..........but probably next week i am going to get the uf 6..........after playing with sampler for so long...........i need more than 25 keys.

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Post by thelike5 » Wed Dec 27, 2006 8:01 pm

I'm really into this as a controller! My reason is the built in EXPANSION port on the back and the fact that WALDORF has a board that fits into this called the Waldorf Nano that turns the CME controller into a micro, MICRO Q!!

The expanision board is $200 and the controller is a little more then that so for under $500, you essentially have a usb controller and a waldorf micro Q!

Of all the company's to team up with...

Now that's a collaboration!

Bummer to hear about the usb flaking out... how do you know that, if you don't mind me asking? I would be using this controller as my primary usb controller as my soundcard does not have midi (allthough I can make it work with rca to midi cinch jacks)

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Post by scottwallis » Thu Dec 28, 2006 1:14 am

i posted a topic the other day about this and the dude posted back about the usb connection basically saying it wasnt very good

sounds great about using it with Waldorf expansion pack thing, ill have to look into that..

the only other 49key midi controller i thought about besides this was the MAudio - Axiom 49......that looks decent as well...but the CME just looks more built to last..and it has all the features id probably use anyway, plus its cheaper..

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Post by SubQ » Thu Dec 28, 2006 2:49 pm

Here in working i'm using a UF6 for a year now. Rugged construction, heavy and durable, good keys action. Crappy knobs and faders, tough. Worth the money, once I got one of these, i'll never went back to m-audio plastic controllers.

the waldorf thing seems a nice deal.
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Post by rikhyray » Thu Dec 28, 2006 3:15 pm

Be warned the Waldorf soiunds great but is almost impossible to use. There is only one way communication so you never know in which bank/patch you are.
The stand alone version will be available soon.
The keys are definitely better then any M audio or any other brand only Novation SL has better ones.

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Post by abletoff » Thu Dec 28, 2006 4:06 pm

I'll say it again here: the UF has a really nice touch, it's well built really apart from the faders and some wobbly transport keys (at least on mine) but the usb driver is (quite officially if you read their forums) worthless. I had to set up mine using miditranslator to recognize some of the functions, there are midi cable only connecion workarounds if you use Logic or another app that can receive midi system messages (or something similar, Live does not).
But if you plan to use it just to play with excellent action at a bargain price, the Cme is wonderful.
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Post by longjohns » Thu Dec 28, 2006 4:13 pm

Who can comment on the feel of the UF8??

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Post by thelike5 » Thu Dec 28, 2006 5:02 pm

rikhyray wrote:Be warned the Waldorf soiunds great but is almost impossible to use. There is only one way communication so you never know in which bank/patch you are.
The stand alone version will be available soon.
The keys are definitely better then any M audio or any other brand only Novation SL has better ones.
Standalone version of the Nano? Rik, is this going to be the first "new" Waldorf product to hit the market (besides the nano for CME)? Could be interesting at the right price...

I thought it was kind of an odd first thing to release after Waldorf has been gone for years now. I mean, there just aren't that many people who have CME controllers...

Have you heard anything else new from Waldorf? It seems like they are getting ready to clear out a lot of old stock synths that they must have had holed up in a warehouse in Germany or something....

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Post by Spiralgroove » Thu Dec 28, 2006 5:03 pm

my friend has a CME and its built really solid, the keys feel excellent

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Post by scottwallis » Thu Dec 28, 2006 5:41 pm

I'll say it again here: the UF has a really nice touch, it's well built really apart from the faders and some wobbly transport keys (at least on mine) but the usb driver is (quite officially if you read their forums) worthless. I had to set up mine using miditranslator to recognize some of the functions, there are midi cable only connecion workarounds if you use Logic or another app that can receive midi system messages (or something similar, Live does not).
So as a midi controller/keyboard connected with a midi cable this is perfect for controlling my vst's in ableton......thats all ill be using it for. all i want to do is assign the parameters from my vst instruments to those on the CME and control from there...it would also be a boost if i could save the settings as well so im not assigning knobs all day......

Will it do a good job for what ive mentioned above??

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Post by abletoff » Thu Dec 28, 2006 6:03 pm

I have to say that after getting bcr+bcf i don't need to use the Cme to control Live, so I havent' even tried the control surface capabilities with live 6 yet :) sorry
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Post by scottwallis » Thu Dec 28, 2006 6:58 pm

I have to say that after getting bcr+bcf i don't need to use the Cme to control Live, so I havent' even tried the control surface capabilities with live 6 yet
Now you saying that makes me wanna get them 2..haha..that must be a helluva lot of power at ur fingertips man...... :wink: With that set up is there anything you cannot do in live??

Still doesnt solve my prob tho, i already have a midi keyboard (evolution mk249)..but i fancied somethng with weighted keys..something a bit more rugged with good controoler features.

I really dont know what my best option would be :(

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Post by scottwallis » Fri Dec 29, 2006 6:17 pm

Well ive had a look on the CME user forum and i have to say i pretty much doubt ill be purchasing one of them now....Looks like nothing bu truoble, i went through 5 pages adn not a nice word said about them AT ALL :cry:

Now im looking for an alternative, and id say on a BUDGET the Behringer BCR and another midi keyboard would be my best option.......seems you cant go wrong with the BCRs evryones raving about them..

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