Virus Control VST and Live 6 latency problems.

BobTheDog · Post by **BobTheDog** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 9:14 pm

Hi Guys,

Is anyone useing the Virus Control plugin in Live 6 and seeing this problem?

It is basically unuseable as there is a large latency even with direct monitoring turned on.

I do not see this problem in Cubase or when running in Kore.

Anyone any ideas?

Cheers

Andy

Casual Beats · Post by **Casual Beats** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 10:27 pm

hey Andy,
using the Virus Control here without any discernable latency.

are you using the latest versions of TI's code?
what buffer setting are you using for your soundcard?

BobTheDog · Post by **BobTheDog** » Fri Jan 05, 2007 12:03 pm

Doc Jones wrote:hey Andy,
using the Virus Control here without any discernable latency.

are you using the latest versions of TI's code?
what buffer setting are you using for your soundcard?

Hi Doc,

Yes I have the latest version from access.

Buffer is set to 128.

As far as I can see it is not the audio that is being delayed but rather the midi signal going to the TI.

Also if I have delay compensation turned on live records the midi data late on the track with the virus vst!

Cheers

Andy

shiba_dad · Post by **shiba_dad** » Fri Jan 05, 2007 3:19 pm

I'm using Live 6.03 and the VC software on a PC. I found that in the Live Options> Prefs >Audio> Hardware Config...if I set the second setting (cant remember what it is and I'm not at home) to "rapid" the latency goes down quite a bit.

Also, when I record I set output 1 on the vst to audio out L+R, and not the usb one. This is in the global window (of course you probably knew this !). My midi notes record right on schedule.

Dan

sqook · Post by **sqook** » Fri Jan 05, 2007 3:23 pm

VC will run better with larger buffer sizes, since it has to do realtime capture via USB. A buffer size of 512 should be sufficient, which is what mine is set to. Live also has an option for "As Audio Buffer", and this works, too.

Anything less than 128 will cause pops, crackles, and other random timing problems.

Tarekith · Post by **Tarekith** » Fri Jan 05, 2007 3:27 pm

Mine works fine with Live 6.03, latest version of VC too.

BobTheDog · Post by **BobTheDog** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 2:24 pm

Hi Guys,

Thanks for all the answers.

Whatever I try I still get the large latency, it doesn't change when useing direct monitoring either so I am pretty sure it is not anything to do with the transport of audio from the TI but rather the note data being delayed when sending to the TI.

I am talking to Access support about, I will keep you updated.

Cheers

Andy

shiba_dad · Post by **shiba_dad** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 8:47 pm

Andy --interesting that we are having similar problems and have similar computers. I have a Dell Precision 470 with dual 3.20GHz XEONs. I'm very interested to hear what Access support has to say about it.

sqook · Post by **sqook** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 10:19 pm

@BobTheDog & shiba_dad

What are both of your plugin blocksizes set to? If you are using "As audio buffer", then what is your audio buffer size set to?

BobTheDog · Post by **BobTheDog** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 11:13 pm

sqook wrote:@BobTheDog & shiba_dad

What are both of your plugin blocksizes set to? If you are using "As audio buffer", then what is your audio buffer size set to?

Hi,

I have tried various buffer sizes with no success, plugin buffer is set to "As Audio Buffer"

Cheers

Andy

BobTheDog · Post by **BobTheDog** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 11:17 pm

shiba_dad wrote:Andy --interesting that we are having similar problems and have similar computers. I have a Dell Precision 470 with dual 3.20GHz XEONs. I'm very interested to hear what Access support has to say about it.

Hi,

Actually my signature was wrong I am useing a MacPro running XP at the moment, It is still multi processor though.

I have emaile tech support telling them that you also have problems and maybe it is a multi-processor problem.

Cheers

Andy

dmacintyre · Post by **dmacintyre** » Thu Jan 11, 2007 10:22 pm

Any update to this? I'm getting similar delays on Macbook Pro C2D. MIDI is late being recorded but audio, etc is playing back fine.

D.

kuniklo · Post by **kuniklo** » Thu Jan 11, 2007 10:34 pm

I've had the same problem - timing is fine in Logic but very spongy in Live. Haven't tried 6.0.3 yet though.

Tarekith · Post by **Tarekith** » Thu Jan 11, 2007 10:41 pm

Bob, is there anyway you can test in OSX, or are you ONLY running XP on the Mac? You're boot camping it I assume?

dmacintyre · Post by **dmacintyre** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 7:19 am

kuniklo wrote:I've had the same problem - timing is fine in Logic but very spongy in Live. Haven't tried 6.0.3 yet though.

Same here - the Ti timing is rock solid in Logic Pro. My other external hardware is also fine in Live (6.0.3). It's just the Ti VC plugin that's late.

D.