NI's Kore Video Is Impossibly Stupid

Naive Teen Idol · Post by **Naive Teen Idol** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 9:01 am

Seriously, who are they targeting here with these production values? (or this product, for that matter...)

http://www.native-instruments.com/index.php?id=kore_us#

compositeone · Post by **compositeone** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 9:45 am

Imagine.....

A promo video that doesn't sound like complete bullshit

Well now you........ can't.

I got about 1/3 way through "chapter" 3 and had to go to a different room for a few moments.....

Emissary · Post by **Emissary** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 10:10 am

HOLY COW PAJAMAS!!

that was the worst video i have ever seen. Stuff like that actually makes a little bit of sick come up into my throat. Also is anyone else really starting to dislike the NI sound. Its so clean and ....well.. pussy whipped, i have absynth but i only use it rarely . NI are like the anti Ableton, they are the Playstation 3 to Abletons wii. All ridiculous power and hype but basically just rubbish and hard to use. Give me the grotty sound of my Sine mb 33 11 anyday over an NI synth. or for that matter my £8 carboot sale dx-100.

sweetjesus · Post by **sweetjesus** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 10:35 am

fuck

make it stop

Naive Teen Idol · Post by **Naive Teen Idol** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 3:23 pm

It's hard to choose. But I think my favorite part of that is when they have the FM8 sound that they filter sweep with the turn of a knob and are like, "DID YOU EVER IMAGINE YOU COULD HAVE THIS MUCH CONTROL OVER YOUR SOFTWARE SYNTHESIZER?" before going into how you don't even have to know FM synthesis to appreciate how truly impressive that was.

Johnisfaster · Post by **Johnisfaster** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 3:38 pm

the video is bad. I saw it a long time ago.

I still think it's lame that they continuously call it a host and a platform which both make you think the thing can actually use plugins without a computer, like standalone. I personally think they want you to think that.

hoffman2k · Post by **hoffman2k** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 3:58 pm

Hell, I still don't know what Kore is about. Or do I?

The dongle from the ninth layer of hell

Somebody should burn down every marketing school in Germany.
That includes the school who graduated whoever did the Live 6 marketing campaign.

What will Live 7 be? More "complete"?

Tarekith · Post by **Tarekith** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 4:53 pm

It's not a dongle anymore, they removed that limitation.

But yes, unless you own all the NI plugs and only use presets, real waste of time IMO. Who want's to tag all their own presets? That the flaw with these search by "feel" schemes (Steinberg's mediabay is another example). It's cool and all when it's done, but the overhead and management of this is you make your own sounds is just to much for me. I want to make music, not catelog the tools I use to do it.

Sales Dude McBoob · Post by **Sales Dude McBoob** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 5:18 pm

"The presets of NI products are incredibly fucking difficult to navigate".

they nailed that one.

Tarekith · Post by **Tarekith** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 5:37 pm

They actually say that?

I can't bring myself to watch it...

djsynchro · Post by **djsynchro** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 5:48 pm

Shocking

rbmonosylabik · Post by **rbmonosylabik** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 7:45 pm

Well, I did learn some useful stuff from those videos:

1- The controller is also an audio/MIDI interface.
2- ....

Ok, that's it. I can't believe I just sat through that.

punkdISCO · Post by **punkdISCO** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 8:34 pm

Emissary wrote:Also is anyone else really starting to dislike the NI sound. Its so clean and ....well.. pussy whipped, i have absynth but i only use it rarely

I know its really subjective by I can’t say I have noticed a NI sound. They have such a huge range of products and defo can’t say I would every describe their sound as ‘clean’. But really can’t blame you for not using Absynth – I can’t say I have ever really got Absynth as not really my sort of thing (don’t like huge ‘soundscape’ type sounds).

Emissary wrote:All ridiculous power and hype but basically just rubbish and hard to use.

I am a real hardware snob and rarely use any VSTi’s. However, I did decide to take the plunge and get Komplete (now version 4) a few years back. NI cover almost everything you could want from software based sound creation/processing, I figured just get the one package and don’t waist time with product after product. Anyway, if I had to describe most of their products I would say: easy to use and sound incredible.

Emissary wrote:Give me the grotty sound of my Sine mb 33 11 anyday over an NI synth. or for that matter my £8 carboot sale dx-100.

Hehe, I used to have a MaM mb33II but sold it a long time ago as too much overlap with other gear I have. Good to see it is still going even if now sold by ‘Terratec’ (ouch!). Back to NI, you really should try FM8 – it really is the only FM synth you will ever need. Its absolutely incredible(!) and unlike most other FM synths, you can actually program it. At one stage I had a DX200, a FS1R and FM7 (in those days). Sold the two hardware units and kept the NI VST.

Oh, back to Kore. NI are very good at doing offers for existing users. I got an offer that was too good to turn down so ended up with Kore. Can’t say I am won over with the concept as just does not really work that well. Okay, Im bias as I don’t like software but its not the revolution they make it out be.

rbmonosylabik · Post by **rbmonosylabik** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 8:47 pm

I'll pass judgement until I know what the revolution is about

punkdISCO · Post by **punkdISCO** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 9:04 pm

rbmonosylabik wrote:I'll pass judgement until I know what the revolution is about

When it comes to Kore, whenever you hear the word ‘revolution’ you can swap this with ‘hype’.

Okay, maybe it a bit harsh. It is good and it does add value but it really does not change the universe. If you are really into VSTs and own all of the NI products, Kore will really open up your world. If you only own a few NI products or even none, Kore will do very little for you.