Unlinked Envelopes and Frozen Tracks

[docjah]

HI,

I've got a 2 measure drum loop.

I've put an unlinked volume envelope on it so it's only heard in measures 7 and 8.

When the track is unfrozen , it works great.

When I freeze the track it never kicks in , kind of like it's repeating the envelope for bars 1 and 2 all the time.

I use this technique a lot , Help!

Dave

[docjah]

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[Amaury]

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Hi,

Indeed, Live does not take in account any length of unlinked clip envelope, I think the limiti is 2 bars. We are thinking about it, but problems start easily if you think of multiple unlinked clip envelopes with various length: what should be the limit of a frozen file?

As for now, it is advised to render such a track if you need to, or to resample it to another track using the internal routing.

Regards,
Amaury

[craw]

if you think of multiple unlinked clip envelopes with various length: what should be the limit of a frozen file?

Why not the same length of the longest unlinked envelope in the track?

[Amaury]

if you think of multiple unlinked clip envelopes with various length: what should be the limit of a frozen file?

Why not the same length of the longest unlinked envelope in the track?

Hi,

That is an option, but still not satisfactory: imagine having one envelope 7 bars long, another one 9 bars long, and another one 13 bars long. Would you like your clip to loop every 13 bars? What about the 2 first envelopes?

The main problem is that we could easily end up with huge files.

Regards,
Amaury

[docjah]

HI,

Then freezing blows.

It means you need to keep track of which tracks have unlinked envelopes etc.

Files size is too big... Who cares? When you freeze , you also render arangement view which is huge.

This should be fixed.

Dave

[dzoge]

So, is there any way to find all tracks, that have clips with unlinked envelopes on it? Searching for it manually in big and long projects could take a lot of time.

Thanks.

[sweetjesus]

So, is there any way to find all tracks, that have clips with unlinked envelopes on it? Searching for it manually in big and long projects could take a lot of time.

Thanks.

how about a warning so that if you are freezing a track that has unlinked envelopes longer than 2 bars, you are notified and allowed to cancel or go ahead.

[longjohns]

might be reasonable. I believe the above example would be 819 bars long. and then would it render a second pass, to catch the tail and make a "real loop"??

[annihilator.1]

i'd like to see the option of flatten without freeze so that all effects and automation remain only now with a flattened sample.