Vaio + Vista + internal Realtek = chopping, clipping :(

Peter Cherry · Post by **Peter Cherry** » Tue May 22, 2007 2:54 pm

Hi,
as I posted in my today´s replay to clipping topic in Bug area of this forum I have the following problem:

I have just bought a new VAIO C-serie with Vista, Core Duo 1.66, 2Gb RAM, NVidida, 120Gb HD, Realtek High Definition internal soundcard...

I installed also ASIO4ALL and I hear clicks and chopping artefacts even during playback of a short audio clips (I tried buffer 64, 128, 256, 512)

So you mean, I should try to install different version of ASIO4ALL or different universal ASIO driver ?

Maybe the problem could be in VISTA settings like new searching and indexing method or whatever...

Any experiences with Vista ?

raw · Post by **raw** » Tue May 22, 2007 8:50 pm

Hi,

you play with internal soundcard, and internal hard drive ? have you tested with MME drivers ?

rikhyray · Post by **rikhyray** » Tue May 22, 2007 9:31 pm

I would install XP and get back to Vista maybe in a year or few months at least. Not just for this but for 1001 possible other driver problems that might be coming at you.
I dont see much sense in using internal soundcard for anything else then casual use. If you spent so much on the laptop and software already, it is worth to get real soundcard. It is about better sound quality, otherwise I was getting decent results with Vaio SZ doing Live test, I think 15 or 16 with the internal card and ASIO 4all, a bit worse with the original Vaios ASIO STHDA driver

PS. go to Sony update and check if there is maybe any update for the soundcard.

mikemc · Post by **mikemc** » Tue May 22, 2007 9:50 pm

You should try the most recent version of ASIO4ALL: Version 2.8 BETA 2

Peter Cherry · Post by **Peter Cherry** » Wed May 23, 2007 11:31 am

My old computer has very good Creamware Pulsar card, but unfortunately it can´t be connected to my VAIO

(

So now I must use internal Realtek, before I will buy Novation Xio synth...

So you mean, original sony drivers for Realtek HD could be better than ASIO4all? I downloaded yesterday new Realtek drivers, I will try it.

But Vaio SZ has another audio chip than my Vaio C Realtek...

rikhyray · Post by **rikhyray** » Wed May 23, 2007 6:42 pm

Peter Cherry wrote:My old computer has very good Creamware Pulsar card, but unfortunately it can´t be connected to my VAIO (

So now I must use internal Realtek, before I will buy Novation Xio synth...

So you mean, original sony drivers for Realtek HD could be better than ASIO4all? I downloaded yesterday new Realtek drivers, I will try it.

But Vaio SZ has another audio chip than my Vaio C Realtek...

I meant firmware, or whatever its called , from my experience ASIO4ALL worked always better.
On my previous notebook it was Realtek, and real problem to find it on www , absurd but their own support site didnt have it.. I used standard XP, not the Sony version and Realtek was the only problem. I used all the drivers from Sony site but the soundcard didnt work, didnt even want to install, hanging on instalation. After long search found a tip on some forum to get the stuff from Packard Bell site and iit worked finally

Peter Cherry · Post by **Peter Cherry** » Thu May 24, 2007 7:47 am

So I tried to switch from ASIO4ALL back to the latest sony realtek MME/DX drivers and acquired latency is much worse than with ASIO4ALL. So I switched back to ASIO.

Now I run my VAIO with overall latency 11ms (256 buffer in ASIO settings), sometimes when moving with the mouse I can hear some glitches. With buffer 512 (latency 18ms) is everything ok.

adventurepants · Post by **adventurepants** » Thu May 24, 2007 8:27 am

Hiya,

couple of things to check

- New Sonys are often weighed down heavily with security/antivirus suites like Nortons or Mcaffees. Out of the box these can heavily degrade performance, especially if youre not running 2gb Ram on Vista. Consider reformatting the thing and only installing the software you need.

- Turn off wireless. Shouldnt, but can have unpredictable effects on real time things. (audio,midi)

- Also turn off bluetooth. See wireless.

good luck!

rikhyray · Post by **rikhyray** » Thu May 24, 2007 10:05 am

Of course, it didnt even occur to me anyone would use Norton, specially on music computer.
The very first thing is to remove all the rubbish, that is why my best advice clean install of XP otherwise remove all the shite, except DVD player and perhaps Roxio.