OSX 10.4.10 = No more sound

Allergic to Cobras · Post by **Allergic to Cobras** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 3:32 am

Just updated to the latest OSX 10.4.10

No more audio in Ableton, just pops, clicks and a high pitched tone.

I'm using an 8 Core Intel Mac, 4 gigs of ram, and a Motu828MkII firewire interface.

Already tried reinstalling my audio drivers.

Anyone else having any audio problems with this update?

BobHofman · Post by **BobHofman** » Fri Jun 22, 2007 6:16 pm

I am having the same problem with this update. I have a Behringer FCA202 interface
Apple suggested to downgrade to 10.4.9.
I do not know if this works. At the Behringer forum someone tried this and then upgraded to 10.4.10 again with the Combo-Installer but the Interface is still not recognized.

alex@vafiopoulos.de · Post by **alex@vafiopoulos.de** » Sat Jun 23, 2007 8:49 am

I updated yesterday on my Powerbook G4. I hope it doesn't affect my M-Audio FW 410. I can't test it right now...

Pasha · Post by **Pasha** » Sat Jun 23, 2007 12:49 pm

BobHofman wrote:I am having the same problem with this update. I have a Behringer FCA202 interface
Apple suggested to downgrade to 10.4.9.
I do not know if this works. At the Behringer forum someone tried this and then upgraded to 10.4.10 again with the Combo-Installer but the Interface is still not recognized.

I got the same interface, did you solve the problem?
I think I'll remain 10.4.9 for a little. FC202A is such an easy interface how can it be
not recognized? Did tried also with external power?

- Best
- Pasha

BobHofman · Post by **BobHofman** » Sat Jun 23, 2007 4:57 pm

Hi Pasha

Stay at 10.4.9
Behringer & Apple have to sort things out. The strange thing is that the FCA202 is recognized as a FW device but you can not choose it as an Audio Device in Ableton, Logic, Garageband and so on. It does not show up in System Preferences>Sound either.
UCA200 (usb) works fine with 10.4.10. Just bought one out of frustration. I have to re-install OS from CD but then I loose all my passwords & preferences & so on.
Also see the Apple forum :

http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jsp ... 6&#4773156

Pasha · Post by **Pasha** » Sat Jun 23, 2007 8:52 pm

BobHofman wrote:Hi Pasha

Stay at 10.4.9
Behringer & Apple have to sort things out. The strange thing is that the FCA202 is recognized as a FW device but you can not choose it as an Audio Device in Ableton, Logic, Garageband and so on. It does not show up in System Preferences>Sound either.
UCA200 (usb) works fine with 10.4.10. Just bought one out of frustration. I have to re-install OS from CD but then I loose all my passwords & preferences & so on.
Also see the Apple forum :

http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jsp ... 6&#4773156

Thank you Bob,
this really saved the day for me.. I was seconds away to do it then I saw your post!
I've been through the apple forums and got a lot of arrogant blinded apple people saying that this isn't going to be solved because it's a 3rd party fault not to have followed the FW Audio guidelines.... is someone going crazy?

- Best
- Pasha

algebrik · Post by **algebrik** » Mon Jun 25, 2007 7:46 am

hello here !!
I didn't do update since I saw a lot problem with 10410 !
But, just a little question, does motu or berhringer interface appear in audio/midi setup ?

BobHofman · Post by **BobHofman** » Mon Jun 25, 2007 12:51 pm

Hi,

No, Behringer does not show up in audio/midi setup 10.4.10

But I have my FCA202 working again!!! I still do not know what happened but this is what I have done.

Disconnected all my FW devices
Downloaded a program called Pacifist (http://www.charlessoft.com/)
Then I downloaded the ComboInstaller 10.4.9 from the Apple site
With the help of Pacifist I only replaced a file called FWAudio.kext (an Extension File)
(it is strange though because 10.4.10 and 10.4.9 have the same modification date for this file)
Then i did the program Repair Permissions in Disc Utility, connected the FCA202 and to my surprise I could choose it again as an Audio Interface

So I think, but I am not sure, the file to replace is FWaudio.kext.

I read some other articles on the Apple forums that other Interfaces and even Airport Extreme Cards (Apple) have problems with 10.4.10
It is definitly NOT a fault in FCA202

-Best
-Bob

Imac Intel Core Duo 1,83 Ghz FCA202

twifer · Post by **twifer** » Fri Jun 29, 2007 11:02 am

Hello!
I'm spanish. Sorry, I don't speak english very well.

I find Apple FKaudio.kext in my system but, where is on pkg?

thanks

tomz.biz · Post by **tomz.biz** » Sun Jul 01, 2007 10:57 am

my RME fireface 400 is giving me grief since i updated to 10.4.10, and i know its the updates fault because when i boot off my 10.4.9 backup partition, there is absolutely no problem.

shame on apple for blaming 3rd party dev's.

***update***

i've just tried replacing the FWaudio.kext as detailed in a previous post. it seems to have solved the problem !!!

thanks for the fix !!

bulliv · Post by **bulliv** » Sun Jul 01, 2007 3:06 pm

I try to do your manip but I don't find the file FWaudio in the old 10.4.9 package.

BobHofman · Post by **BobHofman** » Sun Jul 01, 2007 5:53 pm

Hello,

I am sorry that I am reacting so late to the posts. I am not reading them every day.
Sorry for that.

Download a program called Pacifist (http://www.charlessoft.com/); download the ComboInstaller 10.4.9 from the Apple site

After you have done this:
install Pacifist & open it
Then double click on the .dmg file from Apple (10.4.9.) & then drag this file to Pacifist. You can use the find function in Pacifist to locate FWAudio.kext
After you have located it you can choose the option Install within pacifist.
Your file will be replaced with the one from OS 10.4.9

I have to say that Apple does not like the idea to mix extensions from 10.4.9 with 10.4.10 but Apple themselves don't do a thing to repair this problem. It is not only the Behringer FCA202 which is having trouble with the latest update 10.4.10 Ther are a lot other Audio Cards having trouble. But Apple only states that it is a problem of the "third party people"
(Also I found out that Tubesock is not working anymore (a program to download movies from YouTube)

Well I hope that this post is helpfull
best
Bob

tomz.biz · Post by **tomz.biz** » Sun Jul 01, 2007 8:06 pm

actually the extension swap did not fix my problem.

but changing my cards prefs from auto sync to master sorted it out.

seems 10.4.10 has a bug with sample rates or something...

interceptor · Post by **interceptor** » Tue Jul 03, 2007 3:00 am

My Alesis Photon X25 crashes 10.4.10 when i plug it in. Anyone know how to get this working again? How do I downgrade to 10.4.9?

Thanks

Pasha · Post by **Pasha** » Tue Jul 03, 2007 7:01 am

http://www.osnews.com/comment.php?news_id=18186

It seems FC202A fixed as well, does anybody confirm the fix?

- Best
- Pasha

OSX 10.4.10 = No more sound

OSX 10.4.10 = No more sound

Oh no!

where is apple FKaudio.kext

don't find the file FWaudio in the old 10.4.9 package

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