Silly question ,but....

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Silly question ,but....

Post by lockyp » Thu Jul 12, 2007 10:53 pm

They say ableton is a multi functional program.But how are you supposed to be able to dj on it without a pitch shift adjustment??
Sure you have that tempo button ,but all that means is that you can play tunes at the same tempo.
How do you align the beats?

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Post by Tarekith » Thu Jul 12, 2007 11:18 pm

In Russia, the beats align you.

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Post by lockyp » Thu Jul 12, 2007 11:35 pm

yeah thanks

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Post by Tone Deft » Thu Jul 12, 2007 11:39 pm

read the manual on WARPing

www.abletonlivedj.com is all about live DJing.

watch the videos on this site about it. really, your question is very very basic a full explanation would take a few pages.
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Post by lockyp » Thu Jul 12, 2007 11:43 pm

So using the warp markers is the only way to do it?

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Post by Clique » Thu Jul 12, 2007 11:48 pm

Bingo!

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Post by Tone Deft » Thu Jul 12, 2007 11:50 pm

lockyp wrote:So using the warp markers is the only way to do it?
you can use songs unwarped at different tempos, turn off quantise and launch them whenever you want.

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Post by lockyp » Sat Jul 14, 2007 7:34 am

I'll be probably be flamed for this,but hey im only trying to grasp this program..

Ive got two decks in ableton 1 and 2..Both decks are playing the same tempo

I activate track 1.

And i then activate deck 2,while deck 1 is hypothetically on,say bar 9.5.

To get both of these decks in sync i would need to pitchshift half a beat so both of these tracks are sync. Wouldnt i? Or does ableton activate both decks in sync say so that they are both on the beat.

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Post by lockyp » Sat Jul 14, 2007 8:28 am

They say ableton is a multi functional program.But how are you supposed to be able to dj on it without a pitch shift adjustment??
Sure you have that tempo button ,but all that means is that you can play tunes at the same tempo.
How do you align the beats?

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Post by hambone1 » Sat Jul 14, 2007 8:34 am

You're trying to force an old-fashioned way of DJing into Live's way of working. Live is a completely new mindset with far more scope for creativity, performance, and musicianship. Forget what you know about pitch shifting, tempo, beatmatching, etc the old way. Although you CAN force Live into DJing the 'traditional' way, IMO you'd be wasting your time. You might as well stick to your record and CD players, or Traktor/etc.

I'd suggest checking out some tutorials and the manual and starting afresh. Then come back here with some specific questions, and you'll find tons of help.

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Post by lockyp » Sat Jul 14, 2007 8:42 am

Hi,

I have looked at tutorials,and it wasnt explained thats why im here.I know how ableton works i dont have any probs with that.
My post at 7.34 is pretty much what im trying to work out,but know one seems to be able to give me answer..

Thanks anyway.

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Post by hambone1 » Sat Jul 14, 2007 8:43 am

No pitchshifting is needed for beatmatching in Live. It's all about the warping.

But if you really want to do it that way, check out the Repitch warp mode.

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Post by darkcatt » Sat Jul 14, 2007 8:56 am

lockyp wrote:They say ableton is a multi functional program.But how are you supposed to be able to dj on it without a pitch shift adjustment??
Sure you have that tempo button ,but all that means is that you can play tunes at the same tempo.
How do you align the beats?
read about warping. If you are just a looper then you are in for a long night. If you write your beats then edit the midi map :P
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Post by lockyp » Sat Jul 14, 2007 9:56 am

Why is then if i type 128 bpm in the smaple box for two different tracks on two different decks the beats arent matched?

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Post by djgroovy » Sat Jul 14, 2007 10:03 am

lockyp wrote:Why is then if i type 128 bpm in the smaple box for two different tracks on two different decks the beats arent matched?
Because that's not what they are for.

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