Newbie - Live 6.0 with Line6 Toneport UX1

kharless · Post by **kharless** » Fri Aug 24, 2007 2:13 am

Greetings,

I am experiencing a strange issue recording and I suspect it is similar to the other "bleeding" posts I see on here but I am having a hard time getting any value out of the other posts so bare with me.

Arm Audio track 1 and record from my drum machine, perfect.
Arm Audio track 2 and press play (but not master record) and I notice track 2's software level indicator is bouncing to the beat of track one, but not to the same volume levels.

I have both tracks monitoring set to off.

I can give full details of my rig setup is necessary, but it seems straight forward.

What am I missing?

Amaury · Post by **Amaury** » Fri Aug 24, 2007 8:50 am

Hi,

If I understand well:

-you have 2 audio tracks, the monitoring is set to OFF on both.
-you record on the first track, from an external drum machine. Q: do you record a clip in session view, or do you record in arrangement view (using the record button in the transport bar?)
-then, if track 2 is just armed, and you play back the set, you see audio activity in track 2.

Make sure the In/Out view is visible from the View menu, and check the Input and Output settings for your track: is there any internal routing between the two?

Also, if track 2 input is set to record your soundcard's input, isn't there a microphone attached to the soundcard input, so that the sound from the speakers would be recorded into the microphone?

Just some ideas..

Regards,
Amaury

kharless · Post by **kharless** » Sun Aug 26, 2007 4:09 pm

Wow.. I thought you had it, the built in mic on the laptop seemed so obvious I was kicking myself. Alas, disabling that did not cure the issue. When 2nd track is armed, VU meters do not bounce for any loud external noises, only when 1st track is played back while 2nd track is armed.

I have checked the in/out parms and all monitoring is set to off and all routings are to MASTER.

I truly believe the issue is in how I have this gig hardwired together, although it seems like a plausible configuration.

Perhaps some more details will help me get this solved.

My input connection looks like this:

Guitar --> BOSS DR-880 --> Mixer Board (Record Out RCA Jacks) --> Convert to 1/4 inch into LINE1/2 on back of LINE6 UX1 --> USB to LAPTOP

My output connection looks like this:

LAPTOP --> USB to LINE6 UX1 --> Line Outs (l/r) --> two separate channels mixer board

I am not running the Line6 software (Gearbox) when I use this as it seems to introduce a lot of noise.

Two additional observations;

1) The input signal bleeding into track 2 is not seen until the output volume on the Line6 box is turned up, e.g. until you actually hear track1.

2) Without the GEAR software running I seem to struggle with very low input signals. Not sure why, almost like the signal requires a boost from their software.

Any insights greatly welcomed. I think I am close but confused.

Amaury · Post by **Amaury** » Mon Aug 27, 2007 7:34 am

Hi,

I think you'll have to use the Gearbox software as to control the recording level of the UX1, but I can't verify that right now.

Tell if I'm wrong, but I understand you would like to record the same input signal on both tracks? If so, have you checked the input section for Track 2, in Live? Is it the same as for Track 1? If the In/Out view is not visible, enable it from the View menu.

Another question, are you using ASIO drivers, in the Audio Preferences?

Regards,
Amaury

kharless · Post by **kharless** » Mon Aug 27, 2007 7:06 pm

Tell if I'm wrong, but I understand you would like to record the same input signal on both tracks?

I record track1 as a drum track from my dr-880. I then play back track1 while recording track2, which is guitar. Note: I have my guitar hooked up to the dr-880 so the signal for track1 and track2 are both coming from the same source.

If so, have you checked the input section for Track 2, in Live?

Both are set at stereo 1/2

Is it the same as for Track 1?

Yes

Another question, are you using ASIO drivers, in the Audio Preferences?

Yes

Amaury · Post by **Amaury** » Tue Aug 28, 2007 8:54 am

kharless wrote:
Tell if I'm wrong, but I understand you would like to record the same input signal on both tracks?

I record track1 as a drum track from my dr-880. I then play back track1 while recording track2, which is guitar. Note: I have my guitar hooked up to the dr-880 so the signal for track1 and track2 are both coming from the same source.

Hi,

Then, as all of the settings are the same, and the sound source is 'the same', I'd check the dr-880 settings: don't you have a volume knob for the instrument input? or one to send the instrument input to the output of the dr-880? If you plug a headphone in the dr-880, do you get a decent signal?

Regards,
Amaury

kharless · Post by **kharless** » Tue Aug 28, 2007 5:11 pm

Then, as all of the settings are the same, and the sound source is 'the same', I'd check the dr-880 settings: don't you have a volume knob for the instrument input? or one to send the instrument input to the output of the dr-880? If you plug a headphone in the dr-880, do you get a decent signal?

I am at work now so I can't test this but let me explain why I don't believe the issue is with the dr-880.

If I arm track 2, turn off the dr-880 (of course that kills my guitar signal), and play back track 1, I see the software vu meter in track2 receiving signal. If I clap my hands or yell it does not bounce to this additional noise so microphone input is ruled out.

I am beginning to believe my lack of understanding of my mixer may be key to this issue. Perhaps the RECORD OUT signal I am sending to the UX1 and thus the software is doing something strange.