//\\//\\Ten Reasons NOT to pay for ableton//\\//\\

[b0unce]

1. it's over priced
2. you are beneath their contempt
3. they spend their time coding the next paid-for-product, not working on the problems the current version has. sometimes they do work on those problems, in the next version. which you pay for. like a good, dosile little bitch
4. it's a cult
5. they have hired saddam hussein's lawyer to deal with customer complaints
6. they partner up with companies like m-audio. quality or market share. quality or market share? quality....market share.... , market share please satan and a new beamer "right you are so gherard, should the beamer be pink as usual ?"
7. guys like 'beats me' hang out here
8. content sellers are constantly grooming you, waiting to get their sticky claws onto your wallet. this is the perfect place to sell content, a cult populated by sycophants who by definition of paying for the product and showing their pearly whites - have a loose ass.
9. it never ends, you will find yourself upgrading because they either fix a bug in the next version, or put something critical into it like dualcore support, 64bit engines etc...the version you buy will languish, it has no future....when you buy into ableton you are STARTING A SUBSCRIPTION and nothing more.
10. cos b0unce seh so.

[Poster]

b.t.w...

it's
//\\//\\Ten Reasons NOT to pay for Live//\\//\\

[leedsquietman]

If you don't like it then either go off to another product and troll their forum or better still, turn your car on in the garage (door closed), open all the windows and breathe the carbon monoxide until comatose. Or bOunce off a very high cliff.

Idiot.

Try using Native Instuments or Steinbergs products if you want lame customer service and no bug fixing and paid. Ableton are one of the better companies for customer service and responding to requests. They have a fraction of the resources of Apple or Yamaha (Steinberg's owner), but still put on a better customer service.

[Poster]

9. it never ends, you will find yourself upgrading because they either fix a bug in the next version, or put something critical into it like dualcore support, 64bit engines etc...the version you buy will languish, it has no future....when you buy into ableton you are STARTING A SUBSCRIPTION and nothing more.

so you're saying that v.1.0 should've had;
64 bit engine, MIDI, dualcore supp, racks, slicer, Universal Binary supp, etc, etc..

[b0unce]

9. it never ends, you will find yourself upgrading because they either fix a bug in the next version, or put something critical into it like dualcore support, 64bit engines etc...the version you buy will languish, it has no future....when you buy into ableton you are STARTING A SUBSCRIPTION and nothing more.

so you're saying that v.1.0 should've had;
64 bit engine, MIDI, dualcore supp, racks, slicer, Universal Binary supp, etc, etc..

nah, i'm saying dualcore support should have come with ableton 5.2 - along with the Universal Binary fee. I'm saying they could have made, and could still make, live 5.2 support dualcore. my point is they dont give a fuck about the current version, just the next one and any way they can get you to upgrade to it.

[Poster]

my point is they dont give a fuck about the current version,

that's not exactly true..
6 has been in beta for the whole year round..

just the next one and any way they can get you to upgrade to it.

isn't this what all soft companies do?
improve and sell upgrades..

in fact all manufactures do this; cars, fridges, tv's..

[telekom]

7. guys like 'b0unce' hang out here

[downfader]

..for someone who hates Live/Ableton you've got an awful lot of posts on this forum, b0unce.

[Librado]

does this cult have polyamorus sex orgies? and does the kool aid make you trip or go to heaven? and do the women shave their legs and pits....these are the questions i ask myself before joining any cult....

[dom]

5. they have hired saddam hussein's lawyer to deal with customer complaints

yeah, so sorry for that, but he really was the only one willing to deal with all those recurrent customer emails asking for banning you from the forum and i simply couldn't handle all those requests alone anymore.

cheers,
dom

P.S.: you forgot

11. they don't moderate their forum
12. [insert DAW] sounds better
13. the location of the edit button depends on their developer's form on the day and the areal precipitation in berlin

[Bionecteur]

Oh my god...another angry guy...

go and bomb ableton, bro. This the normal procedure..isn´t it?

By the way: Ableton has weapons of mass destruction

[Rogue Scrunt]

congratulations,

you discovered how the software game works.

[b0unce]

5. they have hired saddam hussein's lawyer to deal with customer complaints

yeah, so sorry for that, but he really was the only one willing to deal with all those recurrent customer emails asking for banning you from the forum and i simply couldn't handle all those requests alone anymore.

cheers,
dom

you should forward those emails on to me, I'll deal with them

[downfader]

Oh my god...another angry guy...

go and bomb ableton, bro. This the normal procedure..isn´t it?

By the way: Ableton has weapons of mass destruction

*whisper* I thought that was ASS destruction

[Bionecteur]

*whisper* I thought that was ASS destruction [/quote]

hehehe