Can I get Sampler to play two octaves at once?

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Can I get Sampler to play two octaves at once?

Post by pajhonka » Thu Dec 20, 2007 11:24 pm

Sorry, this is a probably a very basic Sampler question, but I'm new to it.

I have a vocal sample that I wanted to play in a two part harmony (mid-ranged and -1 octave). When I play the sample on a lower key, the time stretches with the pitch. How can I repitch the sample without changing the time? Thanks!!!!

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Post by forge » Fri Dec 21, 2007 2:38 am

change the "root key"

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Post by longjohns » Fri Dec 21, 2007 6:12 am

forge wrote:change the "root key"
??

Sampler does not have time stretching

Try using a clip slot instead of Sampler. You can set a range of MIDI notes to trigger a single slot, which will let you play different pitches of it's clip on the keyboard.

I'm assuming of course that there is not some special feature of Sampler that you need as well, (modulations, etc)

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Post by forge » Fri Dec 21, 2007 6:15 am

sorry :oops: didnt read it properly because I am lazy

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Post by Kodama » Wed Dec 26, 2007 4:43 am

Sampler kinda has time stretching, loop start points can swept in sampler or simpler (with clip envelopes).
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Post by pajhonka » Fri Dec 28, 2007 2:16 am

Thanks for the responses.

I tried launching the clip via a midi range, but the behavior was erratic (the clip kept looping infinitely).

I want to be able to play two samples concurrently that sound as if it's two people singing harmony. When I moved the loop start points, the effect was achieved at the beginning, but the clips fell out of sync at the end of the sample. It's a two measure sample.

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Post by pajhonka » Fri Dec 28, 2007 2:38 am

I was able to accomplish this by duplicating the clips, then transposing the clips' envelopes. It would still be nice to know how to play this effect with my keyboard if anyone knows how (can envelope transpose be controlled by MIDI notes?)

p.s. this sounds like The Knife!

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Post by longjohns » Fri Dec 28, 2007 4:24 am

I would try using two tracks

each with a copy of the sample in a slot

map the same keyboard range to each slot...

transpose the second track up/down one octave using the clip transpose..

set the clips to legato mode? depends on what you are after in terms of effect

then it would seem like you can play a melody and it will play both clips, one octave apart, as the notes of that melody..

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Post by ckid » Sat Dec 29, 2007 2:55 pm

i would do it like this: transpose the audioclip, render it to disk drop it into sampler and there you can assign multiple samples to one key, in this case original and transposed (although i assume you know this...)

it is not like a realtime workflow as you have to render stuff but the internal tools of ableton help you achieve exactly what you want to do...

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Post by pajhonka » Sat Dec 29, 2007 4:24 pm

ckid wrote:i would do it like this: transpose the audioclip, render it to disk drop it into sampler and there you can assign multiple samples to one key, in this case original and transposed (although i assume you know this...)

it is not like a realtime workflow as you have to render stuff but the internal tools of ableton help you achieve exactly what you want to do...
That's a good idea.

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