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Hi, im new to producing. i would like to make garage music. people on other forums are saying that something called shuffle is important.
What is shuffle? How do i apply it on ableton live 7? and is it something to do with groove? Thank you for your time

Shuffle is something I also never ever understood! Back in the old days of Propellerhead's Rebirth (prior to the now famous Reason), it also had a shuffle button. Activated or not, I couldn't hear a single difference.

Please someone elaborate on this.

Humm. If you enable shuffle in a playlist it randomly selects the next track.
dunno what you can lead from that

So if this is correct, In Rebirth it should randomly select the next pattern, but it never did that ...
I also don't see how this option is essential to music production then. The producer decides what comes next, not a random button.

I think "shuffle" in ReBirth was actually a "Swing" setting (as its known on most other sequencers), which in Ableton Live, is under the "Groove Quantize" function, which is important for Garage music as I understand. Got that?


Try selecting the different Swing settings under "Groove" in the clip window and listen to what happens... if you hear nothing, then record a series of 16 16th notes.

With no groove setting, every 16th note will be equally spaced between its neighbors. With a "swing" feel, some of those notes will be closer to one neighbor than the other.

"swing" is also important for "Swing" music.

Yes
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UK_garage
suggests the shuffle you should be interested in is Swing
Not the shuffle on your CD player, or what you do when you walk or play cards.

Aah, this explains it!
I know what swing is so I'm shuffling my beats for quite some time now

"Swing" usually refers to displacing every 2nd 8th note forward in time, creating a "DUUUN da DUUUN da" groove (a hardcore jazzist would hang me by a painful body part for explaining it like that )

"Shuffle" is displacing every 2nd 16th note forward, creating a different groove.

Thank you for your replies but there is just one thing how do i use this swing option?

Somewhere in the tempo an metronome's vicinity, there's a 0. That's the groove amount, drag it up and it'll add the groove you selected to all clips.