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hmm-weird-I keep reading conflicting tutorials
Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 4:33 am
by morerecords
Can you or can you NOT consolidate a section in arrange view to create a new clip intended for use in session view, with the automation data in arrange view now embedded in the clip envelope/session view?
Re: hmm-weird-I keep reading conflicting tutorials
Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 9:42 am
by 3dot...
...no... the automation in arrange is not like a 'clip envelope' ...
for one it's absolute values...
where clip envelopes are relative to the position of the knob/fader...
and second... it's tied to the arrange timeline
Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 11:29 am
by timothyallan
YES YOU CAN
...believe exactly what 3DOT said, because it's true.
Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 11:48 am
by 3dot...
timothyallan wrote:YES YOU CAN
...believe exactly what 3DOT said, because it's true.
...Excellent use of the 3 dots...if I may say so..
Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 1:55 pm
by morerecords
...no... the automation in arrange is not like a 'clip envelope' ...
for one it's absolute values...
where clip envelopes are relative to the position of the knob/fader...
and second... it's tied to the arrange timeline
i don't see how that would matter, automation values are automation vales, whether they are relative or static, 40% wet is 40% wet when it comes time to convert to clip envelope- the values are there. wouldn't affect the intended purpose at all, but I suppose this functionality has not been implemented yet, hopefully for Live 8.
Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 2:16 pm
by 3dot...
morerecords wrote:
i don't see how that would matter, automation values are automation vales, whether they are relative or static, 40% wet is 40% wet when it comes time to convert to clip envelope- the values are there. wouldn't affect the intended purpose at all, but I suppose this functionality has not been implemented yet, hopefully for Live 8.
...NICHT DON'T THINK SO...! it's like 2 sets of automation 'layers'...
read the manual, it'll make sense... It's actually a Grrrreeeeaaaattt feature
Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 2:18 pm
by 3dot...
if you're on 40% wet....
then 40% 'clip envelope' would mean 16% wet
Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 4:59 pm
by Lo-Fi Massahkah
Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 6:12 pm
by morerecords
I reckognize that, I'm saying that in theory the conversion wouldn't be hard to perform
Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 6:23 pm
by 3dot...
oh...ok...
wishlist material... good luck
Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 9:45 pm
by Jaju
+1 - I would really like that
Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 9:47 pm
by noisetonepause
There's no way Ableton could do this without making old sets explode
Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 2:43 am
by forge
I've said it before, the clip envelope section needs an absolute/relative button
Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 3:35 am
by rbmonosylabik
Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 3:14 pm
by doc holiday
go consolidate some audio, some with arrange automation, and some with clip envelopes on volume and transpose and such, and then see exactly what you can and cannot consolidate.
and drag your clips back to session.
testing things is a great way to see how they react.
