Minimoog or Jupiter

DSILVR · Post by **DSILVR** » Wed Jul 02, 2008 12:41 pm

Which one? Its the VST by the way

Minimoog V

Or the

Jupiter-8V

Help????? please

timothyallan · Post by **timothyallan** » Wed Jul 02, 2008 12:50 pm

one forum wasn't enough for you was it

DSILVR · Post by **DSILVR** » Wed Jul 02, 2008 12:51 pm

Lol, Tim i need a variety of opinions

ahahhaha

leedsquietman · Post by **leedsquietman** » Wed Jul 02, 2008 3:25 pm

It depends on what type of sounds you want.

Why not listen to the examples and/or download the demos from Arturia to see which fit your needs better.

One caveat - The JP8V sounds generally need a bit more CPU than the mini moog sounds and can be quite CPU hungry - they are rated on a scale of 1-5 with 5 meaning 'you're probably gonna need to freeze this sucka !'

Both are awesome. I am an Arturia fanboy for sure.

If you just want immediate access to sounds and mainoy just use presets with some minor tweaking you could buy Analog Factory from Arturia which gives you 3500 preset sounds (500 JP8, 500 mini moog, 500 cs80, 500 moog modular, 500 arp 2600, 500 prophet v, 500 prophet vs) and an easy preset browser to pick out some phat bass, ripping leads, squelchy arps and awesome pads etc.

What you lose is tweakability on every parameter - you get ADSR, fx level and a couple of others which are usually resonance, cutoff or modulation based. You can do quite a bit but not access some of the deeper tweaks available in the standalone synths.

leedsquietman · Post by **leedsquietman** » Wed Jul 02, 2008 3:26 pm

listen / download demos here
http://www.arturia.com/evolution/en/products
scroll down to the mini moog or jp8 and click. On the left side bar there is a player with examples of the sounds !

Better still LIMITED OFFER - Buy the Minimoog and you get JP8V FREE
http://www.arturia.com/evolution/en/buy ... -free.html

DSILVR · Post by **DSILVR** » Thu Jul 03, 2008 1:40 pm

help... others?

oblique strategies · Post by **oblique strategies** » Thu Jul 03, 2008 1:53 pm

Honestly, I don't know anything about these VSTs, or the Jupiter synth...

But, I did own a Minimoog, & I absolutely loved spending hours tweaking odd moods & glorious sounds out of that thing!

So, for what it's worth (if anything), I will recommend the ability to tweak the Moog VST, rather than just access presets.

Question for those of you who are familiar with both the Moog VST & the real thing: are you satisfied with the VST? Maybe I'll get it too as something to tide me over till I can get a real mini again.

DSILVR · Post by **DSILVR** » Thu Jul 03, 2008 1:56 pm

Yeah thats fair mate

I am worried that the moog is only good for rich bass sounds. I want a synth thats still got that nice phat bottom end yet it can still do fantastic lead type sounds or mabye even the odd pad...................what do you use the moog for mate?

oblique strategies · Post by **oblique strategies** » Thu Jul 03, 2008 2:16 pm

DSILVR wrote:Yeah thats fair mate

I am worried that the moog is only good for rich bass sounds. I want a synth thats still got that nice phat bottom end yet it can still do fantastic lead type sounds or mabye even the odd pad...................what do you use the moog for mate?

I really loved getting odd 4am moods out of it -hard to explain. De-tuning all 3 oscillators, making weird chords with them. The quality of the sound is warm -but not always as used in vintage or current music. In general, I'd call the sound rich -even when it wasn't warm, it was always rich. It can also get very mysterious, shimmering, forlorn, sad, bright, searing, & so much more.

For some real fun you'll have to get into playing it like a real hardware analog -start from some form of scratch & then just tweak & tweak, flip switches, turn knobs, etc. This is the analog synth sound journey! Fun stuff, not having presets.

I remember playing my minimoog with my friend who was a bass player. After a while, as I twisted & turned the sounds around, he said "Oh, I get it. You actually play that thing!" I guess he expected that it was all about the keyboard, playing it like an organ. But you can do so much expressive stuff with the envelopes, filter, etc.

I also used it as a signal processor to effect external instruments & sources. Made some great tapes running a Fender Rhodes through it. Great clanging metalophone!

On the other hand, it won't play everything -it is what it is. If you have a specific range of sounds in mind, this might not be able to create them. But I love it big time, & I will get another some day! -maybe a modern one if it has *that sound*

leedsquietman · Post by **leedsquietman** » Thu Jul 03, 2008 3:44 pm

Arturia's mini moog totally rocks. That and G-Force's minimonsta are 2 excellent software emulations. Of course, I'm not suggesting the sounds could ever BEAT the real thing but they come very close and you get the added flexibility of polyphony, not having to worry about the hardware going out of tune (as older analogs have a tendency to do), breaking down or paying through the nose for something that 20 years ago (when deemed unfashionable in the age of the Roland D50 and Korg M1 etc) you could pick up in a pawn shop for 50 bucks.

The fact that they were so cheap and available at one time is what lead to them getting popular again with electronic musicians who were on a shoestring but then remembered that for all their faults they produced sounds that the digital synths like the D50 and M1 simply could not, as those PCM/Wavetable based synths were aimed more at real instrument emulation (which they do better and also do some very nice panpipes and pads etc) and digital filters just don't compare.

DSILVR · Post by **DSILVR** » Fri Jul 04, 2008 2:24 am

Hmmmmm such good replies on the Mini Moog

See i first considered the Mini Moog cos of its easy of use and it seems quite fun and easy to program, i am starting to think i am going to get it...

Help with Jupiter but? anyone own it?

3dot... · Post by **3dot...** » Fri Jul 04, 2008 2:37 am

here's a hot tip.... try the demos....

(maybe you would like to keep the Jupiter demo....
it's their only demo that doesn't silence after 20 mins. of use...
and as for the other limitations...well...you figure it out ! )

landrvr1 · Post by **landrvr1** » Fri Jul 04, 2008 2:41 am

Is there any real choice here?

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mrjameskent · Post by **mrjameskent** » Fri Jul 04, 2008 12:32 pm

I'm also considering the Minimoog arturia vst, and have been told by loads of people on KVR to go with the Mini Monsta.

I've got demo's of both, and I'm leaning toward the Mini Moog Arturia as it just feels more playable and simple, and I'm in love with some of the presets (which I'll be honest are important to me as building blocks for news sounds).

In terms of CPU, which is important to me as well, the arturia seems slightly better although the UI of the mini monsta is better to use (you can type in the values which i don't think you can on the arturia).

but as a good place to learn and have fun, and still sounds amazing to me, the arturia is it for me.

and if you buy it now you can get the Jupiter free (although the CPU and dongle issue is huge for me here).

Just wish i could try out Sylenth1, but I'm on Mac so no go.

J

leedsquietman · Post by **leedsquietman** » Sat Jul 05, 2008 2:37 am

the minimonsta is a good representation and good sounding plugin. There is not much to choose between them either way, so if the dongle is an issue then perhaps Arturia is not the way to go. I too slightly preferred Arturia but a lot of people like the Minimonsta better, it's all subjective.

For me, I already have the dongle being a long time cubase user, so am used to it's shortcomings (!) and the Arturia licenses can be put on the same key.

Yes, the JP8V demo is not time limited, it only has a handful of presets available but most of the programmability is there, I really like the JP8V synth as Jupiters are my favourite sounding analog synths, theyhave a different tone and texture to a moog, which I possibly prefer for it's crazy lead sounds but the pads and brass and many other sounds are excellent on the JP8V. The step sequencer they supply is also a nice addon.