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What key Note??

Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 1:35 pm
by Deland01
Can anyone point me in the right direction for a guide to what elements in a track should be in what key note? I understand that if you have too may sounds in the same key they the track will start to sound muddy and un-clear.

Does anyone always use a set method like they always use the Kick as C, or they will only use hi’hats from the top end of the keyboard

Any help would be welcome

Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 2:52 pm
by Silence
i don't think i really understand what u mean...care to clarify?

what do u mean by key? first it seems to me that u´re speaking of music theory and harmonies and such and then u start talking about kicks and that kinda confuses me... ill try to help if u just clarify

Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 5:15 pm
by alin55
I think when he says "key" he means "frequency"............ :roll:

Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 5:18 pm
by alin55
maybe this will help...............


interactive frequency chart

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 1:50 am
by bassµnkie
Are you talking about having tuned drums? That's what it sounds like you're asking about...

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 8:22 am
by Deland01
alin55 - thats exactly what I was talking about. I gues I may have been confusing frequency with Key.

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 8:39 am
by Deland01
Does anyone know if there's a dance music equivelant of this?

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 9:17 am
by EARLGREY
Yeah : your ears....


Sorry, but you'll just need to listen and practise.
Sometimes the use of a spectrum analyzer can be a nice visual aid.

rgrds

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 9:31 am
by selthym
Deland01 wrote:Does anyone know if there's a dance music equivelant of this?
Can't quite remember where, may have been here or the nuskoolbreaks or DOA forums, but I have seen something ssimilar. Kicks hitting at 100-150k, snares 200k, lead at xxx etc.

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 11:16 am
by Nokatus
Deland01, watch this:

http://udma.com.ua/academy/
ANDI VAX “MIXING SECRETS”

Free mixing video tutorial for dance music producers.
1. Basic skills of equalization
2. Main principles of equalization
3. Frequency’s conflicts and instrument groups
4. Main principles of compression
5. A little bit about mastering
6. A little maximizing hint
7. FAT sound. Three methods of making kick drum.
8. FAT sound. Fat and pumping bass.
9. FAT sound. Synth double track.
10. FAT sound. Unreal wide bass.
11. FAT sound. Percussion and cymbals processing.
12. Virtual Room Hints. Main principles.
13. Virtual Room Hints. 5 reverberation hints.
14. 10 advices from ANDI VAX
Don't believe anything to be the "one true way" without testing it yourself -- but make no mistake, there are some very good, robust guidelines laid out in that video.

Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 10:07 am
by Deland01
Nokatus - this DVD is brilliant & just what I’ve been looking for although, the Russian dude certainly knows his stuff but he’s kinda hard to understand in parts. I guess the thing what I’ve been trying to work out for so long is just called EQing, making sure all the frequencies are in there for a good professional sounding mix.

Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 10:25 am
by Nokatus
No prob. It was Phat Conductor here on the forums who made me notice this video, in his Mixing Thread (plenty of other good tips in that thread too, btw).

It's a quality video for sure. I didn't find the accent too distracting, just went for a short rewind a few times :). If you find it difficult to overcome the accent, grab the transcript pdf from the same directory and follow it along as you're watching.