How do you get beat repeat to be in time?

Wesley · Post by **Wesley** » Sat Aug 30, 2008 10:50 pm

I've got a button routed to the on/off button of beat repeat. It seems I have to press the button in perfect sync with the beat in order to get the notes in time with track.

If I'm a bit off it will flop around and sound like mini-trainwreck. Should I leave the plugin 'ON' and find another way to enable/disable?

-wes

synnack · Post by **synnack** » Sat Aug 30, 2008 11:40 pm

Try a dummy clip. Then you can just trigger the beat repeat dummy clip when you want it and it'll use global quantization to start/stop it in time.

video of how to do this here:

http://www.covops.org/index.php/The-Cov ... sited.html

sinnatagg · Post by **sinnatagg** » Sun Aug 31, 2008 9:00 am

I got a writeup on how to do this here http://sinnatagg.synth.no/chopper/chopper.html.

-andré

Michael Hatsis · Post by **Michael Hatsis** » Sun Aug 31, 2008 10:48 am

Wesley wrote:
If I'm a bit off it will flop around and sound like mini-trainwreck. Should I leave the plugin 'ON' and find another way to enable/disable?

-wes

Leave the plugin on
set chance to zero
map a button the the repeat switch...I think the repeat switch is what your looking for..supposed to stutter stuff immediately. Its up to you to catch it right.

Wesley · Post by **Wesley** » Sun Aug 31, 2008 7:58 pm

thanks for the replies.

sinnatag, your method looks very cool, a bit intimidating. It looks like each beat you wanna chop has to have some preproduction and I'd need two extra tracks. I'm definitely going to go through the tutorial, but I'm hoping to wind up with something that can take any source signal on the fly without the need to create extra clips before hand.

mapping a button to 'repeat' instead of the on/off switch results in echoes and slices occurring after I release the switch, even with chance set to 0%.

perhaps with a combo of wet/dry, repeat and maybe a few others using macro controls I can get the sorta control I'm after. About to try some new stuff out.

thanks again,

-Wesley

sinnatagg · Post by **sinnatagg** » Sun Aug 31, 2008 8:19 pm

Wesley wrote:thanks for the replies.

sinnatag, your method looks very cool, a bit intimidating. It looks like each beat you wanna chop has to have some preproduction and I'd need two extra tracks. I'm definitely going to go through the tutorial, but I'm hoping to wind up with something that can take any source signal on the fly without the need to create extra clips before hand.

The only way to quantize anything to the beat in Live is through clip triggering so an extra channel and dummy clips is the only way to go if you don't want to cue in your chops by ear. Alternatively there are plugins that does this (like Artillery).

The extra channels and clips are really not a lot of complexity for what you get though. It's the sort of stuff you'll have to get used to if you want to do a real live set anyway.

Here's a liveset that uses the chopper if you'ld like a listen. It's not very good but none of the cuts are preprogrammed.

http://sinnatagg.synth.no/mp3/Badass&Si ... 080724.mp3

(warning! industrial music ahead)

-andré

Wesley · Post by **Wesley** » Sun Aug 31, 2008 8:32 pm

thanks again mate! I'll give it a listen

the track off the tutorial page was pretty dope. I was digging the melodies.

-wes

sinnatagg · Post by **sinnatagg** » Sun Aug 31, 2008 8:52 pm

I gotta admit that I stole those from Rob Hubbard

-andré

4.33 · Post by **4.33** » Mon Sep 01, 2008 8:18 am

here's how to control BeatRepeat with only 1 knob on your hardware which sleeps when it's in leftmost position, but as soon as you touch it - it activates the beat repeat and lets you scroll through all Grid modes all the way to the right:

map the On/Off switch and the Grid knob to the same hardware knob
leave the Repeat button on
choose Insert mode to avoid phasing issues/for more pronounced chopping
you may choose to engage No Triplets bttn as well
now go to your midi mappings and tune your ranges
it should look like this:
DeviceOn 1 - 0
Grid 1 bar - 1/256

and everything will be in time

siliconarc · Post by **siliconarc** » Mon Sep 01, 2008 12:42 pm

grab this wet/dry rack from covert operators, put the beat repeat on the 'wet' chain, and map the macro to a key or button.

Michael Hatsis · Post by **Michael Hatsis** » Tue Sep 02, 2008 12:39 am

Wesley wrote:thanks for the replies.

mapping a button to 'repeat' instead of the on/off switch results in echoes and slices occurring after I release the switch, even with chance set to 0%.

so your saying after the repeat switch is turned off it still repeats? that doesnt happen here. for me it does what i think your asking to do, repeat in sync with Lives Clock.

ausgeno · Post by **ausgeno** » Tue Sep 02, 2008 1:47 am

Turn triplets off, it might make it sound more 'in time' to your ears.

sinnatagg · Post by **sinnatagg** » Tue Sep 02, 2008 4:46 am

mike@TrackTeam Audio wrote: so your saying after the repeat switch is turned off it still repeats? that doesnt happen here. for me it does what i think your asking to do, repeat in sync with Lives Clock.

If Interval is longer than Grid (or it might be the other way around) it will loop even if the repeat button ain't pushed in. Mapping these two to knobs is another way to chop with the beat repeat and I found this easier than punching the repeat button, although this still won't be triggered on time.

-andré

sparklepuff · Post by **sparklepuff** » Tue Sep 02, 2008 5:10 am

I kind of feel bad, this is so easy to do on the Lemur. Perk, I suppose. Sorry, that's not helpful. But it sure does make using the beat repeat a heck of a lot of fun.

Michael Hatsis · Post by **Michael Hatsis** » Tue Sep 02, 2008 6:35 am

sinnatagg wrote:
mike@TrackTeam Audio wrote: so your saying after the repeat switch is turned off it still repeats? that doesnt happen here. for me it does what i think your asking to do, repeat in sync with Lives Clock.
If Interval is longer than Grid (or it might be the other way around) it will loop even if the repeat button ain't pushed in. Mapping these two to knobs is another way to chop with the beat repeat and I found this easier than punching the repeat button, although this still won't be triggered on time.

-andré

Interval has no effect when you hit the repeat button... even if it still repeats after you release the repeat button ( which it doesnt do here ) then map the same button to the volume dial and set the parameters boundaries accordingly. really seems like you guys are taking something simple and making it very difficult...

turn on the metronome...
set chance to 0
map a button to repeat...
hit the repeat...compare it to the metronome, to me the thing repeats with the metronome

How do you get beat repeat to be in time?

How do you get beat repeat to be in time?

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