andy_bingham wrote:If they could incorporate into Live, what the "InTime" piece of Software does, that would be AMAZING!!! DO IT!!!
Here's a link, if ya want to take a look:
http://www.circular-logic.com/index.html
Andy
very interesting. I was wondering is someone out there had started to work on this idea yet. i'm sure the software will develop and eventually work it's way into all sequencers and DAWs.
Everyone knows, and can agree that recording to click tracks is not so fun. It actually constrains the creative work flow process when trying to come up with a new beat or melody from scratch. Unfortunately, for now, there is really only one way to record live looping in a performance. You must have a click track. Ideally, a hi-hat or simple percussion loop is preferable, at least have it monitored through separate channel (stage monitor/headphones) if you don't want the crowd to hear the loop. From there, you just have to play along. But remember to have an assigned midi trigger for the "tap tempo" feature in Ableton, because it is the easiest way to get the tempo matching the one in your head. And I can't think of any other way to record live without a click/tempo track until they learn to program code that analyzes peaks in audio and midi signals with extensive calculations in the background. If the guys at circular logic are doing it, i'm sure Ableton will notice and hopefully implement this code when they iron out the quarks.
BUT, if you are in the studio, and are jamming around or feel creative, i do have a little trick I'll share with all of you. I think I posted it on a previous thread, but i think it got buried a while ago. This is a trick I used to use in Cubase, and am very pleased that I can still perform this with Ableton.
First: Turn the metronome/click track OFF.
Second: Choose a midi instrument to start a song with, and arm it to record, whether it be a midi drum track, or any other midi instrument, internal or external.
Third: Hit record
Fourth: Turn away from the computer screen. At this point, you should completely forget that you are recording. Go ahead and jam for a while. A few minutes, or hours even. Not to worry, because, midi data takes up no more space than text files. You can record for years and never come close to filling a few gigs of HD space.
Fifth: After you feel like you've done some good jammin, and created some good beats and riffs, or you're tired of playing, go ahead and hit "stop".
Sixth: Go to start, and play back the midi you just recorded, and listen. Just pretend it's audio at this point.
Seventh: Once you hear a part that you like and you think is worthy of making a track from, hit pause, and select the bars/notes that sound good to you. Make sure you know which note is the down beat, select from there to the down beat of the last loop. Then right click and select "stretch notes". As long as you can hear the down beats in the midi, you should easily be able to stretch and place the notes to their according places in the sequence. Then set your loops markers.
And that's it, your midi is now synced properly, and a click track was never used. The only problem with this process is that, after the midi has been time stretched, the original tempo is lost. You can always manually adjust the tempo to match the one in your head when you started recording, but the best way to accomplish this is to hit the tap tempo button a few times before you record your midi. This will help ensure your midi data will stay at relatively the same tempo after stretching.
I think Ableton needs to add a feature to Live that would allow you to lock midi data to clock/time, and not tempo. This way, the track can be adjusted to fit the tempo of the recorded midi. This would really change the way people make music at home. Click tracks can really destroy the creative process, but they are saviors for live performance.
