Tone Deft wrote:insipid rant filled with personal attacks
1. The amount of music has nothing to do with me being a lawyer.
OK, that's nice.
2. Me being a lawyer has nothing to do with how geeky I can or want to be.
I'd say it affects how geeky you can get. I'm a formerly trained geek and have been a professional geek for 12 years, it's what I do every single day. I've had to learn about 15 languages by now. when I get a new one they just make sense, I pick them up quickly. have you ever written a line of code in your life? ever done it in your spare time? do you want to talk software or hardware? you can't. it's simply my forte'. you've got talents up the ass, you're a smart guy, nobody questions that but this is not your area and why you have no interest in m4L.
3. What I want to get into has nothing to do with how smart or dumb I am.
see my response to #2. you should know I respect you far more than most posters when it comes to talent and intelligence. still, you're more artist than geek. you're lawyer smart, but when it comes to science you're not. you don't have an interest in science and that's perfectly fine and normal. and no, watching a Transformers movie is not science.
4. What entire communities are or aren't doing has nothing to do with how narrow or open minded I am.
have you ever pursued it? have you ever been involved with a geeky art project? ever spend time writing code just to make an LED blink on a controller? have you ever shown any interest in using science to make art or just dick around with scienceshit? no, and that's what m4L can be about.
5. Where science meets art has nothing to do with the cost of entry.
it affects the desire to pay the cost of entry. I fully appreciate why max/msp/jitter is $700, a lot of people don't get it.
6. Asking me to think past my world is an unreasonable request when you're incapable of doing the same, you do it often.
another lame personal attack. in this case I'm in my comfort zone. the topic at hand is where my head's usually at, it's not where yours is at. I don't need to look past my world to discuss this topic, you do. I do it often? links bitch. omfg you make more threads about yourself than most anyone here, shit you even made a forum all about you. (yes that song is about you.) that's cool though, it's part of the weirdo you are, you wear it well.
7. Being a hardware engineer has nothing to do with this conversation and is irrelevant. Leave your soap box in your cubicle.
you totally don't get it. some of the tools I use resemble max/msp "programming" quite a bit. this is a program called Quartus, I use it to write code in a language called Verilog. you can also encapsulate Verilog into graphical building blocks, just like max/msp.
I'll give you a cookie if you can tell me what that does, it's shit I learned when I was 19 and have been doing it ever since. oh, and it could be something musical.
have you ever looked into the hardware platforms that are available for max/msp?
dipshit, that's exactly up my alley. max/msp, software, hardware, me. this is why I called you 'lawyer boy' this stuff is WAY outside your experiences. you don't know the first thing about this stuff, nothing, nada, zip, zilch.
8. Why this appeals to you has nothing to do with this argument. But you have your head so far up your own ass, that you can't see it.
some of us want to discuss it, some of you want to post "I don't want this." we get it, you're a luddite, you don't interest us, we don't care that you don't want it. please stfu and let the rest of us enjoy a good conversation.
You seem to think that a critique of something you like is a personal attack against you. Time and time again, you respond with personal attacks back. Sadly, San Francisco has not really armed you well to go up against a New Yorker, so you'll lose. However, we should elevate this beyond that: I quadruple-dare-challenge you to make one reasonable argument without a personal attack. I don't think you're capable. And every time you get personal, you lose credibility. Try it now. Help me help you.
a whole paragraph of hypocritical bullshit. neb, you're not a New Yorker, look at your mail sometime, you're a goddamn Texan, LOL! sticking feathers up your ass does not make you a chicken. don't be a poser.
you want to talk about cred? what's your cred with geekshit? you know production shit I don't have a clue about, thanks for all you've taught me, truly. I know geekshit about audio that you don't have a clue about. nobody knows it all, sometimes you just have to admit you're out of your comfort zone.
this is GREAT!! it's been too long since we've had a flame war, bring it on little man!!!
oh, and citizenchris099 - lose the lame fucking banner FFS.