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Post by plonkman » Mon Mar 14, 2005 9:58 pm

1. dont give a shit about music you dont listen to
2. dont give a shit about how the music is made
3. dont waste your time justifying why you dont listen to a certain style
4. listen to what feels right
word!
"Knickers!" - Syd James 1913 - 1976

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A real DJ?

Post by djadonis206 » Mon Mar 14, 2005 10:36 pm

Marco Carola

Donald Glaude

Dj Dan

Dan and Marco Carola are like pin point on the mix perfect programming blah blah blah plus they rock the MUTHA FUCKIN HOUSE hands down

Donald isn't as technically tight as those 2 but is probably the undisputed show stopper hands down

I think a DJ is someone who can rock the party no matter what medium but have the tecnical presense to at least look like they now what their doing

The best DJ's in my opinion

Dan
Donald
Misstress Barbara
Christian Smith
Marco Carola
Umek
Christian Varela
Dave Clarke
Carl Cox (the best)

oh yeah

Frankie Bones knows how to hold it down to


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Post by bigdog » Tue Mar 15, 2005 12:23 am

Dan and Marco Carola are like pin point on the mix perfect programming blah blah blah plus they rock the MUTHA FUCKIN HOUSE hands down

Donald isn't as technically tight as those 2 but is probably the undisputed show stopper hands down

I think a DJ is someone who can rock the party no matter what medium but have the tecnical presense to at least look like they now what their doing

The best DJ's in my opinion


hahahahahaha this one really takes the cake.what is this??....english as a third language....jesus go out and get a proper job...learn to play an instrument.....and stop talkin that shit....pshawwwww

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Post by sweetjesus » Tue Mar 15, 2005 12:34 am

bigdog wrote:Dan and Marco Carola are like pin point on the mix perfect programming blah blah blah plus they rock the MUTHA FUCKIN HOUSE hands down

Donald isn't as technically tight as those 2 but is probably the undisputed show stopper hands down

I think a DJ is someone who can rock the party no matter what medium but have the tecnical presense to at least look like they now what their doing

The best DJ's in my opinion


hahahahahaha this one really takes the cake.what is this??....english as a third language....jesus go out and get a proper job...learn to play an instrument.....and stop talkin that shit....pshawwwww
Hey NO PEOPLE BASHING in this thread, I've been getting some wicked ideas and philisophies out of this thread, so yeah. Don't diss nobody.

I think there's been enough psychological fodder here to make Freud proud guys!

I have been reaffirmed in my mind that there's more to DJ'ing well than just mixing tracks together. It's something you either have or don't have, and only so much of it comes from practice.

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Post by Darrel855 » Tue Mar 15, 2005 12:42 am

so wait a minute Im a DJ who has played guitar, bass, and drums for 15 years but I dont use them to dj. What am I "Big DOG" I DJ with some of my own tracks I make edits of other tracks that I DJ so am I a musician or a DJ? Ild say Im a DJ and Im proud of it . jsut because you can open your tiny little mind to others art doesnt give you the right to judge them .
And as for Dj's being the reason for rock music sucking ass right now {WTF is that all about }how is that a DJs fault.

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Post by bigdog » Tue Mar 15, 2005 1:54 am

hehehehe yeah yeah....my only hope is that i get to visit these ageing, bling wearing, bullshit saying excuses for musicians in the old peoples homes...i love to see saggy tats that say things like....."upper east rules you muthaaaas" hahahahah

you will be sayin rock da house then?????...i dont think so
you ll be saying....keep those young idiots quiet im tryin to rest....hehee
cheers

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Post by Darrel855 » Tue Mar 15, 2005 1:57 am

? lay off the krack dude

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Post by sweetjesus » Tue Mar 15, 2005 2:01 am

Darrel855 wrote:? lay off the krack dude
yes and give the leftovers to me!

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Post by starving student » Tue Mar 15, 2005 2:24 am

please don't pay attention mr. bigdog, he's just trying to derail the conversation, this thread has some very good insights, especialy the guy who brought up the fact that before laptops people using desktops weren't calling themselves djs on stage,,, that was an eye opener I for one had overlooked. no one is questioning musicianship or art here, the original poster was just questioning what makes a dj i think

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Post by 12micsn1 » Tue Mar 15, 2005 2:29 am

What is a DJ?

IMO Pretty much anyone can take the claim to the title DJ an its so easy to qualify. Its the most over used title around an doesnt require a skill or background of knowledge. If you can hit play or drop a needle you are automatically a DJ. You can even fake mix and scratch to a prefabricated mix with some good acting an not many will catch you perpetrating a fraud. Just slap a DJ tag on yourself an everyone will believe you. Now being a good or bad DJ is whole different issue. Still anyone can be a DJ either way.

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Post by krusty » Tue Mar 15, 2005 2:40 am

Just for fun...can you guys spot the "frustrated musician" in this thread?

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Post by sweetjesus » Tue Mar 15, 2005 3:07 am

starving student wrote:please don't pay attention mr. bigdog, he's just trying to derail the conversation, this thread has some very good insights, especialy the guy who brought up the fact that before laptops people using desktops weren't calling themselves djs on stage,,, that was an eye opener I for one had overlooked. no one is questioning musicianship or art here, the original poster was just questioning what makes a dj i think
I think that this is because very early on, when dj'ing started out on the streets of america (hip hop etc) people were making do with whatever tools were at their disposal in order to express themselves. Back then the average joe had a record player, now that common tool is becoming the laptop.

As a result, the new generation are using todays tool (the laptop/notbook) exactly in the same paradigm of yesteryear. Interesting to think that in some ways the pinnacle of hip hop DJ'ing was near the time of its origin, maybe we are approaching the pinnacle of laptop DJing too.

However the incredible technical skill that some few people do posess in turntablism 20 or so years after its incarnation makes me wonder just how crazy things will be in another 20 years time. But the discussion is not about the future as much as it is about the now.

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Post by SimonPHC » Tue Mar 15, 2005 3:38 am

I'm getting really mixed feelings about these kind of threads ...

so let me do a medley of songtext quotes:

"It ain't what you do, it's the way that you do it! that what gets results"
"There's not a problem that I can't fix, cause I can do it in the mix"
"Won't you groove on out, won't you groove on out of my life?"
"Collapsing new people"
"The answer is yes"
"Past represents the future, next I make them equal"
"Everybody wants to be the DJ, Everybody thinks it oh so easy"
"We are the music makers and we are in control of transmission"

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Post by Ambioun - Techno Man » Tue Mar 15, 2005 3:39 am

Here is my input into this whole arguement.

I am apart of a 2 man DJ-PA Team. I have been doing this hybrid thing for about 10 years and I think that we have done somthing unique. DJ's im my mind down to what the word means are pretty lame. DJ's who play their own music are okay. But me and my bud have come up with a new hybrid way. Why can't we take the excitement of performing live "via Keyboards. Yes, I do play piano" and incorporate that into DJing? Let me elaborate.

Me and Mike play the keyboards and I work an Evolution controller. We have it all going into Live and have a rack mount setup. But the DJing part is that we have a modded TR-909 synced to midi and is controlled with a pattern step sequencer mounted to my keyboard. And I have other parts like other synth parts that we could not play being spun in Live.

Its this hybrid way that makes the DJ look a quite bit more like he is interacting with the music. Its pretty much performing and DJing at once.

I hope that more DJ wannabee's will take this into consideration and learn to play a fucking instrument and then add that to their DJing talents.

Thats my word.

OH and DJ Adam Jay. I loved your latest set. Nice.
And you got some of those vocals from the Matrix LMAO!
(We know that your afraid of us!"

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Post by SimonPHC » Tue Mar 15, 2005 3:44 am

btw, you have to love WIkipedia for these kind of things ...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DJ

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