TAKE A LOOK !!! to end up with the audio engine debate ..

[petit nuage]

hello !

i think these videos show very well the live audio quality as mixing and post production tool...

but like the author told there is just little things to improve for a better use..héhé

very stonishing ! and very talented guy !! wow !


he made his proper sound design and post prod on two trailers : tron and a star wars's video game

plus ,in my opinion ,it shows that live is very capable ..and it has audio quality which is as good as logic or pro tools..


http://www.gearslutz.com/board/post-pro ... egacy.html


ciaoo !

[kb420]

Nice post. That's amazing.

[petit nuage]

yes ! i find it amazing too !!

what a talent and what a hard work i think !

im very impressed by sound designer like him ..

if this guy come here sometimes it will be cool if he could share a bit with ableton community his techniques to achieve this kind of sounds and mixing..

[petit nuage]

i think , i will make a deep dive into clip's enveloppes automations..

[Johnisfaster]

yeah, that sounds pretty good. It's just too bad Live sounds muddy on the low end and brittle on the highs. You guys might not hear it but I can, you gotta trust your ears.

[petit nuage]

héhé

[IP]

finger for those who talking shit about ableton

[petit nuage]

perfect ! youuuu wiiiin !!! totally agree with you !

[mihai]

live is ok if you want to put together a tune really fast. if you want to have something sound good then pthd is the only way to go. trust me.

[tsutek]

What on earth does a film postproc sound design prove of Abes's sound engine?

This thread is moot IMO, this kind of stuff is possible to do in any host..

[ikeaboy]

live is ok if you want to put together a tune really fast. if you want to have something sound good then pthd is the only way to go. trust me.

I think I'll have to pass on that, but hey why not have a 15 page debate to muddy the waters a little and where nobody changes their opinion.

[petit nuage]

@mihai..its your point of view and i respect it ....for me its not because its cost lot of money that it means is superior..for me pthd is a standard in lot of studios around the world + its expansion cards allows you to load lot of plugs without eating cpu.. otherwise i ve asked about ableton sound engine's debate to big name , electronic or not , artists who use logic ,ableton or pro tools ,on myspace ,and they told me that its is as good as others..trust me or not
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@ tsutek : of course its possible with other daws..but the debate is often about muddy low end or ableton is not really good for mixing because of its summing bus etc etc....with this video you see that ableton sound like other daws.. not less not better .. as good as pthd which is use as a standard to make sound design ,mixing and sound in general in famous movies ..

in this video you see that there is no problem with muddy low end or mixing summing bus or whatever..its just that ..

for me its a steril debate..

and if people arent capable to make live sounds like that its because they dont know how to do it ..

i dont like rumors,disinformation and discreditation thats all !..sometimes it even look like propaganda..

when you see all the artists who use ableton and who have access to great expensive gear in famous studios ...just that ..should stop this debate..IMO


for me the two things that i think pro tool , by exple , is a bit better for mixing its because that its arrangement view is a bit clearer and the possibility to PRINT directly the fx in the audio file without freezing a full track or make a routing ..more ergonomic i think .. and the possibility to move clips in arrangement with keyboard's keys without using mouse.. plus ,of course, all the expensive hardware created to use with it..

but if you use good eqs,comps, preamps ,sound card , fx in general.. + if you dont saturate plugs ,bus ,summing bus + if you let enough headroom + if you work at 24 bit ..i dont know where is the problem ..


but all of that is just my modest point of view ..

ciao

[Emissary]

First of all that vid is great, second it has no bearing on live's sound engine as its on youtube. i think we would have to hear something like that in a comparison with another DAW on at least a 5.1 system.......oh....woops

[petit nuage]

héhé you are right !!

[3phase]

what is a nuage?