EDIT: Pros VS cons with PadKontrol--Best bang for the buck

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Re: Pros VS cons with PadKontrol/Akai MPD18

Post by SunshineLui » Tue Jan 19, 2010 10:42 pm

SubFunk wrote:

and Farmpad is a must if you have the PadKONTROL.
the farmpad isnt still avaiable for windows?^^

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Re: Pros VS cons with PadKontrol/Akai MPD18

Post by squelcht » Wed Jan 20, 2010 3:39 am

Decided....PadKontrol it will be. I've heard many good things about how well the pads play over other controllers 8)

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Re: Pros VS cons with PadKontrol/Akai MPD18

Post by SubFunk » Wed Jan 20, 2010 6:52 am

squelcht wrote:Decided....PadKontrol it will be. I've heard many good things about how well the pads play over other controllers 8)
the right choice, for sure!
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Re: Pros VS cons with PadKontrol/Akai MPD18

Post by madlab » Wed Jan 20, 2010 7:18 am

squelcht wrote:
delicioso wrote:Padkontrol DOES map to Drum Rack by default. You just have to choose padkontrol as a control surface in preferences and the default factory scene 1 will instantly map to Drum Rack. You never have to worry about manually mapping the right octaves this way.
I thought choosing the PadKontrol as a control surface was causing him to NOT be able to use the drum racks correctly....Hmm....Me soo confuuused :?:

madlab??
It works straight out of the box with drum racks if you choose padkontrol as a control surface, what odesn't work is feddback with the drum racks. I guess feedback would work ok if I didn't choose pk as control surface, the midi notes assignments would then be defaults, but I would loose the ability to move the black square used for cell selections on the drum rack and get the padkontrol to move accordingly. Is that clearer ?
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Re: EDIT: Pros VS cons with PadKontrol--Best bang for the buck

Post by squelcht » Wed Jan 20, 2010 12:59 pm

^gotcha :wink:

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Re: Pros VS cons with PadKontrol/Akai MPD18

Post by SubFunk » Wed Jan 20, 2010 2:45 pm

madlab wrote:It works straight out of the box with drum racks if you choose padkontrol as a control surface, what odesn't work is feddback with the drum racks. I guess feedback would work ok if I didn't choose pk as control surface, the midi notes assignments would then be defaults, but I would loose the ability to move the black square used for cell selections on the drum rack and get the padkontrol to move accordingly. Is that clearer ?
now i am confused, does my setup work correctly?

i have the PadK set up as a control surface in midi pref. when i use it to play a drum rack, then i need to either move the black square of the drum track one octave down to C1 instead of C2 (i set up a default rack for that purpose) in the top left corner, respectively i could set up a scene on my PadK one octave higher, but now it is set to starting at C2 and it triggers C1 in a drum rack.

if i understand you correctly the PadK should follow, if i move the black square either way... one octave up or down???

it does not follow, what do i do wrong, respectively do not understand here?

i am confused after what you wrote...
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Re: EDIT: Pros VS cons with PadKontrol--Best bang for the buck

Post by squelcht » Wed Jan 20, 2010 5:37 pm

AHHHHHH THE MADNESS!!!

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Re: EDIT: Pros VS cons with PadKontrol--Best bang for the buck

Post by SubFunk » Wed Jan 20, 2010 5:42 pm

squelcht wrote:AHHHHHH THE MADNESS!!!
well, not really the PadK is so awesome compared to all the other rubbish pads around, that you should give a shit if it works with the drum racks or not (well you can use it anyways to trigger drums and whatever) the Pads is where it's at, they are bar none the best from all the pad controllers...

go grab one and worry about the shit racks later, a padK is something you can play like an instrument!!! a drum rack is just technical wanker stuff, if you can't make awesome music (beats) without a drum rack, then leave it anyway...

i just want to de confuse you!

still if someone can chime in...

it would be obviously good if it works, no question, but i made hundreds of ass kicking beats before as well... go figure...

it's the Pads, mate, it's the Pads not the damn racks!
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Re: EDIT: Pros VS cons with PadKontrol--Best bang for the buck

Post by squelcht » Wed Jan 20, 2010 5:51 pm

^But of course! 8) Drum racks are great (don't get me wrong) however I lay down more beats/rhythms with other things rather than Drum racks---(i.e. Microtonic/Battery & such)

The quality of the pads is a major plus for me :wink:

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Re: EDIT: Pros VS cons with PadKontrol--Best bang for the buck

Post by SubFunk » Wed Jan 20, 2010 5:55 pm

yes drum racks are awesome... and i would like myself to know if it works or not...

i just wanted to clarify that the decision should be based on the important issue, the pads itself. cause that is what you PLAY!
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Re: EDIT: Pros VS cons with PadKontrol--Best bang for the buck

Post by AstronautX » Wed Jan 20, 2010 7:13 pm

the padkontrol i would def suggest over any akai.
for me, just having pads with leds makes it light years better.
for some, this may or may not be a make/break for choosing one over another.
even if the korg pads didn't illuminate they are still way better in every way.
the pads are very sensitive and responsive from edge to edge even corner to corner.
the body of the unit although very light, is firm and sturdy.
padkontrol is the bona fide S>H>I>T>!!!

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Re: EDIT: Pros VS cons with PadKontrol--Best bang for the buck

Post by madlab » Wed Jan 20, 2010 7:15 pm

squelcht wrote:^But of course! 8) Drum racks are great (don't get me wrong) however I lay down more beats/rhythms with other things rather than Drum racks---(i.e. Microtonic/Battery & such)

The quality of the pads is a major plus for me :wink:
I made a scene for microtonic and it works great, even the feedback... Pads are really much better than those on the mpd series.
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Re: EDIT: Pros VS cons with PadKontrol--Best bang for the buck

Post by ThrowAway » Thu Jan 21, 2010 1:30 am

You can fix any of the akai pads in 5 minutes if that helps any of you.

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Re: EDIT: Pros VS cons with PadKontrol--Best bang for the buck

Post by madlab » Thu Jan 21, 2010 8:04 am

I know the fix for the akai series but that implies opening the unit and put some layers of gaffer tape under each pad and that breaks the warranty.
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Re: EDIT: Pros VS cons with PadKontrol--Best bang for the buck

Post by squelcht » Thu Jan 21, 2010 12:56 pm

madlab wrote:I know the fix for the akai series but that implies opening the unit and put some layers of gaffer tape under each pad and that breaks the warranty.
:?: :? Thats just retarded :|

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