Discuss music production with Ableton Live.
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beats me
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by beats me » Fri Jan 29, 2010 7:42 pm
hoffman2k wrote:A couple of years. At least since the Jeff Hann demo.
The point was more that what you said isn't a rumor. Read the link backwards

Glad to see it went through. There was a brief shining moment when I got to rub elbows with the movers and shakers in the industry and just about everybody I personally know didn't know what I was going on about.
"You got drunk with who? ...And they do what? ...What the fuck are you talking about? You're interrupting Laguna Beach."
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by RajahP » Fri Jan 29, 2010 8:10 pm
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by RajahP » Fri Jan 29, 2010 8:13 pm
RajahP wrote:beats me wrote:Action Jackson wrote:Yes, Live = a professional tool and iPad = toy.
You and many other people are looking at this wrong.
You have to look at it more like a lemur with the added benefits of:
1. A lemur is 3 to 4 times the price of an iPad.
2. A lemur doesn't output sound, an iPad does.
3. As far as I know a lemur doesn't cover the full color spectrum and has a lower resolution. So while you can easily make an interface that looks like a lemur you can also make one that is much more detailed.
4. There are already music plug-in type apps for the iPad that generate sound and work similarly to a plug-in you'd use in a DAW. There will no doubt be a lot more released for this.
5. The iPad also lets you listen to music and watch movies and TV shows, read books, email, browse the Internet, play games, and also has countless other useful apps that has nothing to do with music.
I thought you were being sincerely curious, but I see you're just being another no imagination narrow minded ass hat.
And the cost also...
Just don't get the feminine napkin bit.. seems like there is a trade war launched by Apple's competition.
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by beats me » Fri Jan 29, 2010 10:38 pm
You can't run anything serious on a netbook. Yet. It's not what they are built for.
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by naburo » Sat Jan 30, 2010 12:02 am
probably I´ll buy an ipad of the 3rd generation,
but today it is much to early.
For me it is time to seriously think about the next iphone.
They´ll have to give it some features, if they want to stay in the market
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by anybody human » Sat Jan 30, 2010 12:43 am
Not right away atleast. I didn't get an iPhone for quite a while but I couldn't imagine not having one now, and I read a lot on it so it sucks to scroll, scroll, scroll. It would be great to have but I spend all my money on gear. If I get in to touch OSC control etc. that would be my excuse. Probably wait a couple generations.
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by delicioso » Sat Jan 30, 2010 1:14 am
crumhorn wrote:They hope (believe?) that flash will die because it doesn't run on apple mobile kit rather than the other way around. From now on anything that doesn't fit in with their vision of a multitouch, button free user interface won't be allowed.
Actually it seems to have more to do with the fact that Apple access likes to have access to the source code for everything that runs on their devices so that they can fix it if something is buggy. Adobe owns the source code for Flash and won't make it available for Apple.
http://daringfireball.net/2010/01/apple_adobe_flash
"To my knowledge, Apple controls the entire source code to the iPhone OS. That’s not to say they wrote the whole thing from scratch. Many low-level OS components are open source. But they have the source. If there’s a bug, they can fix it. If something is slow, they can optimize or re-write it. That is not true for Mac OS X, and Flash is a prime example. The single leading source of application crashes on Mac OS X is a component that Apple can’t fix."
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by delicioso » Sat Jan 30, 2010 2:11 am
Tarekith wrote:Agreed. People who think Live will run day run on this are kidding themselves. Maybe a different product similar to Live, but as it stands now there's way you could realistically run the app as it stands.
I'm far more interested in a different application that is designed for capacitive touchscreens rather than trying to run "full blown" apps like Live that were designed for the keyboard and mouse. I'm excited to see the kind of apps that will be written specifically for the iPad to take advantage of more power and screen real estate. If iPhone apps are any indication, there will be some amazing stuff coming out. There's something to be said about this new platform based around the touchscreen. I like the built-in limitation that encourages touch and gesture rather than diving deep into menus and remembering keyboard shortcuts.
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by longjohns » Sat Jan 30, 2010 4:08 am
4.33 wrote:
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by longjohns » Sat Jan 30, 2010 4:16 am
LoopStationZebra wrote:
Seeing that it's about 10x the thickness of the iPad, then who knows?
wow, damn! it's 5 inches thick?!?!?
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by Tarekith » Sat Jan 30, 2010 4:18 am
delicioso wrote:Tarekith wrote:Agreed. People who think Live will run day run on this are kidding themselves. Maybe a different product similar to Live, but as it stands now there's way you could realistically run the app as it stands.
I'm far more interested in a different application that is designed for capacitive touchscreens rather than trying to run "full blown" apps like Live that were designed for the keyboard and mouse. I'm excited to see the kind of apps that will be written specifically for the iPad to take advantage of more power and screen real estate. If iPhone apps are any indication, there will be some amazing stuff coming out. There's something to be said about this new platform based around the touchscreen. I like the built-in limitation that encourages touch and gesture rather than diving deep into menus and remembering keyboard shortcuts.
Agreed 100%. The whole reason this is exciting (to some) is that's it's really a push in a new direction for what mos tpeople consider mobile computing. People can laugh and joke all they want, but you can't deny how much the iPhone really changed the mobile phone market. The more I think about it, the more I see this doing the same thing. Not saying for everyone, but certainly for the general public and not people who (maybe) need specialist music or graphics software.
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by longjohns » Sat Jan 30, 2010 4:32 am
Tone Deft wrote:the big ass servers that Ableton programmers use to compile code on.
ask hoffman2k about that
at least when we saw, live was compiled on a quite normal-sized tower.
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by beats me » Sat Jan 30, 2010 5:16 am
Tarekith wrote:delicioso wrote:Tarekith wrote:Agreed. People who think Live will run day run on this are kidding themselves. Maybe a different product similar to Live, but as it stands now there's way you could realistically run the app as it stands.
I'm far more interested in a different application that is designed for capacitive touchscreens rather than trying to run "full blown" apps like Live that were designed for the keyboard and mouse. I'm excited to see the kind of apps that will be written specifically for the iPad to take advantage of more power and screen real estate. If iPhone apps are any indication, there will be some amazing stuff coming out. There's something to be said about this new platform based around the touchscreen. I like the built-in limitation that encourages touch and gesture rather than diving deep into menus and remembering keyboard shortcuts.
Agreed 100%. The whole reason this is exciting (to some) is that's it's really a push in a new direction for what mos tpeople consider mobile computing. People can laugh and joke all they want, but you can't deny how much the iPhone really changed the mobile phone market. The more I think about it, the more I see this doing the same thing. Not saying for everyone, but certainly for the general public and not people who (maybe) need specialist music or graphics software.
The irony with all the haters on here calling it a toy is that it has more practical uses for people who do audio or visual work than for people who don't really do anything creative. For the everyman it could be seen as just another gadget they don't need. So maybe all the hater comments would make more sense on a TMZ discussion board where they can wax poetic about how superficial and materialistic society is.