Will you buy an iPad?

[delicioso]

major downside is that you can't install something unless Apple deems it ok. I agree with the quality control angle, but the approval process is a little lame IMO.

I don't know about it being a "major" downside. The iPad will be jailbroken in no time like the iPhone where hackers have made amazing apps that bypass Apple's approval process altogether. I guess I'd be worried too if I didn't know that was possible.

[beats me]

I really don't get the open source complaints and as I am an avid Apple user and somebody who doesn't program anything I probably never will. From my angle I see it as a way to implement some kind of quality control coupled with the one stop shop user reviews on itunes.

I could be wrong on this because I am not a programmer, but isn't their development kit free to whoever wants to use it and you just have to work within it's structure? And I'm not sure on the iPhone kit but I'm pretty sure it was said that there's an interface to test your device on the iPad and by extension you could make whatever you want to use and just use it yourself. If you want to share it then go through the itunes store and offer it for free. You might even discover you can invent something people would actually pay for.

What am I missing here?

major downside is that you can't install something unless Apple deems it ok. I agree with the quality control angle, but the approval process is a little lame IMO.

I have some confidence that the development community is going to come up with whatever it is that I might find useful....144,000 apps out already, not exactly a small elite group. I'd venture to say it's one of the biggest development communities of any platform. I just hope that it allows for some kind of true interaction applications between the iPad and your computer. The obvious one is being able to have a lemur type control surface that you can layout and design on your computer and then upload to the iPad. As far as I know there isn't anything like that for the iPhone yet.

[beats me]

major downside is that you can't install something unless Apple deems it ok. I agree with the quality control angle, but the approval process is a little lame IMO.

I don't know about it being a "major" downside. The iPad will be jailbroken in no time like the iPhone where hackers have made amazing apps that bypass Apple's approval process altogether. I guess I'd be worried too if I didn't know that was possible.

What are these amazing apps? Sincerely curious.

[anybody human]

NPR radio app rules, any station, anywhere. Remote rules, control iTunes downstairs with my phone, computer is upstairs, stereo & Airport are downstairs. Touch OSC, Jazuto, etc. Fire field recorder rules. Brian Eno's Bloom is actually pretty cool believe it or not, and my 2 year old niece likes it. I'm not even that into apps, I could go on but I'll spare you guys the boredom.

Edit: Oh yeah, the Internet, w/ or w/o wifi.

[delicioso]

What are these amazing apps? Sincerely curious.

http://cydia.saurik.com

[beats me]

What are these amazing apps? Sincerely curious.

http://cydia.saurik.com

So there's nothing like those apps currently available through the iTunes store? And I really didn't see anything that made me go "I have to have this!!" I also noticed they are charging for each app. So how is this any different other then just bypassing Apple and risking your iPhone getting bricked through a OS update?

I could see wanting to hack an iPhone so it doesn't have to be tied to AT&T or whatever service providers you have to use outside the US, and also maybe early on when there wasn't any or a lot of apps available, but at this point it just seems like it's catering to people who get some kind of sense of satisfaction out of screwing over a corporation and that's about it. And actually Apple already got their money just through the purchase of the iPhone so it's not really hurting Apple. Maybe I'm missing something.

[anybody human]

@Beats Me: I thought you meant regular apps. The question was about hacked apps. Woops.

[delicioso]

So there's nothing like those apps currently available through the iTunes store? And I really didn't see anything that made me go "I have to have this!!"

Well that's just an example of the type of apps that allows you to modify the iPhone to do things that Apple might now want you to do, like multitasking, how many pages of apps you can have, how many apps you can see on one page at a time...etc. Very useful but not necessarily "amazing." And yeah, most of the apps that I use and make me go "I have to have this" are regular apps.

[db120]

categoriessb (folders), pro-switcher, backgrounder, infini-dock, forgot the name, but the app that allows you to text without leaving screen you're on. There are plenty of useful jailbroken apps.

[beats me]

So it looks like the useful jail broken apps have to do with multitasking which hopefully Apple will fix on their own while arguing about the battery life issue. I just remember the early apps for the jail broken iPhone and they were mostly things that there are legitimate apps for now.

I really didn't see the inability to multitask on the iPhone as an issue because I wasn't under any illusion that it was a full blown computer. The iPad kind of does give you that illusion. But there's sometimes I wish my real computer wouldn't multitask because then I might actually get some music done instead of Live just sitting idle in the background while I distract myself with other mostly useless bullshit.

[UncleAge]

I'm one of those sad folk that was really looking forward to something like this but sadly won't be jumping on-board.

The biggies for me are no flash support, no SD or USB ports, no support for T-Mobile's 3G and no widescreen potential. And I would need to be able to print from this thing if it is to replace my lappy. Seriously, I am looking to ditch the big laptop when I travel. And I travel for work quite a bit. I could care less about it's music making potential. I have my bigger computer for that. And no camera or extra keyboard doesn't bother me one bit either. I just wanted to have an acceptable browsing experience tied with a PIM and music player. All of that with a decent screen and a very portable form factor. Apple has come the closest so far. But there is little here that I can't do on my iPhone so I won't bother. It all seems a bit rushed and not well thought out.

However, it's not released yet so some of that landscape could change. We'll see...

[delicioso]

The biggies for me are no flash support, no SD or USB ports, no support for T-Mobile's 3G and no widescreen potential. And I would need to be able to print from this thing if it is to replace my lappy. Seriously, I am looking to ditch the big laptop when I travel.

For me it's kinda tiring to see people complain based on the premature whinings from the unimaginative and from the usual apple-bashers. I'm with Apple and Google for going with an open standared HTML 5 instead of Flash. Yes, there is a port for SD and USB. As far as I know you will be able to use T-Mobile's 3G if you really want to. Not sure what "no widescreen potential" means. It's 1024x768 so you get letterbox widescreen. And yes you can print from it. Oh, and yes you can ditch the big laptop when you travel because you will be able to access your laptop within the iPad by just running one of the many VNC apps already available.

[massiveheadpain]

I like how people just like to post why or why they won't buy something. Like anybody cares what you spend your money on.

Like the previous poster said, ditching flash and moving towards a html5 standard is a good thing. Quit bitching about flash. Nobody cares. You can either keep whining over the lack of flash or move on. There will be no flash on the iPad. Most likely never.

On the bright side many different people will find many creative uses for this device. For students, for small businesses, and creative pros there will be many interesting apps and there will be features added as the needs of the consumers expand and evolve. It will be interesting to see how it all unfolds over time.

[FunkFest]

The moment Novation comes out with a big±ss extended version of Automap for the iPad, I will will buy the damn thing....

rgrds

[MartinOM28V]

Yes as soon as Ableton makes an iPad app that integrates with the laptop to function as a second screen/control surface for Live. Plug it into the USB port and set it up as a Control Surface, then flick windows between laptop and iPad as you wish--whatever windows are in the iPad are fully controllable via touch. Use the iPad to tweak instruments, launch clips, select instruments from the browser, whatever...