With all this glitchy, wobbly and techy music.......

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Re: With all this glitchy, wobbly and techy music.......

Post by beats me » Sat Mar 13, 2010 2:50 am

dum wrote:Which is ironic, because you advise those pursuing the glitchy microedit genre to be lazy, and to scavenge through the output of generic buffer plugs.

Seems at odds with what you're saying in this thread on the topic of soul etc

:P

You're staying on that list buddy!
WTF are you going on about? Creating digital noise, skips, stutters, pitch shifts, and artifacts by whatever means is about as far from soul as you can get musically.

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Re: With all this glitchy, wobbly and techy music.......

Post by dum » Sat Mar 13, 2010 3:09 am

the shit you listen to, probably

as we discussed the soul is in the manual composing =)
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Re: With all this glitchy, wobbly and techy music.......

Post by BongoBennie » Sat Mar 13, 2010 3:22 am

Melodic = Soul?? WTF??? Only thing I hate more than trance is music experts....
lights, drums, techno

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Re: With all this glitchy, wobbly and techy music.......

Post by beats me » Sat Mar 13, 2010 3:24 am

dum wrote:the shit you listen to, probably

as we discussed the soul is in the manual composing =)
Well post some links to some glitch that you think has soul. I'm no expert.

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Re: With all this glitchy, wobbly and techy music.......

Post by Silverfish » Sat Mar 13, 2010 3:27 am

Um, do we have a working definition of melody yet?

In layman's terms, I would say a melody is something you can hum. If you can't hum it, it's probably not a melody.

Am I guilty of sometimes not writing an actual melody? Yes. As an experiment, try creating a melody by humming or singing it first, then drop that glitchy, wobbly bass tarnce lead underneath. Get that melody stuck in your head. If you find you're humming it a day or two later, it's probably gold.

Now, I'll be listening to Telefon Tel Aviv and Ochre... :D

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Re: With all this glitchy, wobbly and techy music.......

Post by outershpongolia » Sat Mar 13, 2010 3:34 am

beats me wrote:
dum wrote:the shit you listen to, probably

as we discussed the soul is in the manual composing =)
Well post some links to some glitch that you think has soul. I'm no expert.
Pretty Lights

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Re: With all this glitchy, wobbly and techy music.......

Post by beats me » Sat Mar 13, 2010 3:43 am

outershpongolia wrote:
beats me wrote:
dum wrote:the shit you listen to, probably

as we discussed the soul is in the manual composing =)
Well post some links to some glitch that you think has soul. I'm no expert.
Pretty Lights
Love Pretty Lights but I don't really consider it Glitch. Using it as a technique every now and then, yeah. But heavily driven by it, no.

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Re: With all this glitchy, wobbly and techy music.......

Post by antarktika » Sat Mar 13, 2010 3:47 am

sounds like time for some gridlock

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GcOwO6Ex7I

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Re: With all this glitchy, wobbly and techy music.......

Post by dum » Sat Mar 13, 2010 3:51 am

beats me: are you soft in the head ? The answer to your question has been posted already
have fun trying to come anywhere near the quality of their manic edits with your 'scavenge the renderings of generic buffer effects' approach. Just a quick sample from heir AFX, not bothered spoon feeding you the answer on this one - you almost always puke it back up!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=926fiS2kvt8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIg8l9yvITU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBDAunPkSAY

etc etc etc

beats me wrote:
dmcm wrote:
toneklang wrote:What I find hillarious about this topic is, that pressing some of the links in the sigs at the people rooting for more melody and soul in music, you get directed straight in to trancy/dancy club music, without a single melodic frase in it. Dear friends, making a bassline or a synth stab at cuepoints is not a melody! The most glitch stuff out there is actually the most melodic within electronic music (Aphex, Squarepusher, Jaga Jazzist, Prefuse 73 ect.).

Take it easy, make music, don't nag.

Toneklang
+1 :D
I'd like to be removed from the list of hypocrites. Except certain segments of the first track on my myspace page. I'll give you that.
Pasha wrote:Thanks dum for being so precise.

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Re: With all this glitchy, wobbly and techy music.......

Post by beats me » Sat Mar 13, 2010 4:01 am

dum wrote:beats me: are you soft in the head ? The answer to your question has been posted already
have fun trying to come anywhere near the quality of their manic edits with your 'scavenge the renderings of generic buffer effects' approach. Just a quick sample from heir AFX, not bothered spoon feeding you the answer on this one - you almost always puke it back up!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=926fiS2kvt8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIg8l9yvITU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBDAunPkSAY

etc etc etc
Are you a robot? All of that had zero soul. You're like a chick who only focuses on one part of an entire conversation that annoys her and then beats that into the floor for the rest of your life.

Here, I'll give you a link you can better respond to me with.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOMN32r3kI8

I'll post my response now.

Yes, you are right. That does have some soul. I stand corrected.

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Re: With all this glitchy, wobbly and techy music.......

Post by dum » Sat Mar 13, 2010 4:03 am

beats me wrote: Are you a robot? All of that had zero soul.
ULTIMATE FAIL.

I stopped reading from that point.

I can see baby won't open his mouth for the aeroooopllaaaaaannnneeee
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Re: With all this glitchy, wobbly and techy music.......

Post by outershpongolia » Sat Mar 13, 2010 4:43 am

beats me wrote:Love Pretty Lights but I don't really consider it Glitch. Using it as a technique every now and then, yeah. But heavily driven by it, no.
Yeah it's not entirely glitch, just throwin it out there.. definitely tons of that technique throughout the tracks tho, even if it isn't so crazy all the time. He's definitely my favorite producer along with Alex B.

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Re: With all this glitchy, wobbly and techy music.......

Post by antarktika » Sat Mar 13, 2010 5:09 am

beats me wrote:
dum wrote:Which is ironic, because you advise those pursuing the glitchy microedit genre to be lazy, and to scavenge through the output of generic buffer plugs.

Seems at odds with what you're saying in this thread on the topic of soul etc

:P

You're staying on that list buddy!
WTF are you going on about? Creating digital noise, skips, stutters, pitch shifts, and artifacts by whatever means is about as far from soul as you can get musically.
I think we've all been going about this the wrong way, maybe when he says soul he is talking about this:
http://www.viddler.com/explore/Queenweezy3/videos/1/
this makes what was said above perfectly logical.

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