Ableton preview/cue - Can I insert VST fx here?

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Ableton preview/cue - Can I insert VST fx here?

Post by moffdnb » Tue Mar 30, 2010 12:49 pm

Folks,

In my main DAW (Sonar) I can preview/cue samples and route the output of this to its own strip. Then add VST fx but keeping the Master out clean. Can I do this in Ableton? I can't figure out of this is possible. It seems the preview/cue is locked within the Master out strip.

Any help is appreciated.

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Re: Ableton preview/cue - Can I insert VST fx here?

Post by fakemoney » Tue Mar 30, 2010 4:01 pm

It's a shitty workaround, but I started using fx send A as my cue instead of the proper cue function, because a)you can put all the fx you want on the cue bus and b) you can adjust the level of each track into the headphone mix. it's not as pretty and it's more useful in the studio than for live situations, but i've gotten used to it.

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Re: Ableton preview/cue - Can I insert VST fx here?

Post by moffdnb » Wed Mar 31, 2010 6:47 am

Newbie to Ableton.

How exactly do you route the previewed samples to the Aux buss? I don't really see where I can do this.

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Re: Ableton preview/cue - Can I insert VST fx here?

Post by fakemoney » Fri Apr 02, 2010 8:45 pm

oh. shit. i guess i didn't read carefully enough. i thought you were talking bout general-purpose cueing. i don't think you can route the preview through a different channel. maybe i'm wrong...

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Re: Ableton preview/cue - Can I insert VST fx here?

Post by moffdnb » Tue Apr 06, 2010 11:27 am

Dang! Anyone know of this is possible?

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Re: Ableton preview/cue - Can I insert VST fx here?

Post by moffdnb » Thu Apr 08, 2010 6:32 pm

bump!

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Re: Ableton preview/cue - Can I insert VST fx here?

Post by yur2die4 » Fri Apr 09, 2010 12:25 am

The only way it would be possible would be if you were to re-route it physically. If your cue out is 3/4, then find your 3/4 OUT jacks, and connect them to some kind of Input on your audio interface. Make an audio channel and set the Input to that specific input, and throw some vsts on it. Now when you cue, you will hear your audio affected by whatever effects you wanted. You could even reroute that new audio channel to any other channel or return channel in Live. That is currently only way to do it. end.

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Re: Ableton preview/cue - Can I insert VST fx here?

Post by jonasbj » Fri Apr 09, 2010 12:53 am

If you are on a mac, you can use soundflower http://code.google.com/p/soundflower/ and create an aggregated audio device, containing both your current interface and soundflower.

1 - send your cue to soundflower 1/2
2 - create an audio track with input from soundflower 1/2 (monitor IN)
3 - send the audio from that track to your preferred outputs on your interface
4 - make a pie http://allrecipes.com/HowTo/Making-a-Pi ... etail.aspx

Rock on!

edit: the soundflower equivalent for PC would be JackAudio http://jackaudio.org/ but I don´t think you can make aggregated devices in Windows. Some interfaces have software which supports internal re-routing/loop-back.

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Re: Ableton preview/cue - Can I insert VST fx here?

Post by yur2die4 » Fri Apr 09, 2010 1:11 am

Pie tastes better with Olivia Munn :D

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Re: Ableton preview/cue - Can I insert VST fx here?

Post by jonasbj » Fri Apr 09, 2010 1:20 am

yur2die4 wrote:Pie tastes better with Olivia Munn :D
I have heard you can make pie with Olivia Munn in Max for Live, but you need a launchpad.

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Re: Ableton preview/cue - Can I insert VST fx here?

Post by moffdnb » Fri Apr 09, 2010 2:02 pm

Thanks for the help guys. Sounds a bit messy. I'll have to do it in SONAR for now.


Maybe a future update will include such an operation.

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Re: Ableton preview/cue - Can I insert VST fx here?

Post by jonasbj » Mon Apr 12, 2010 10:58 pm

Let us hope so!

No problem :)

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Re: Ableton preview/cue - Can I insert VST fx here?

Post by baseinstinct » Tue Apr 13, 2010 1:15 am

very cool thing for an update, along with master chain included in the song browser, after all its tracka (kind ov obvious).

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