I'm going back to Logic for arranging

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Re: I'm going back to Logic for arranging

Post by Markemark » Thu Apr 08, 2010 7:53 am

nathannn wrote:i doubt they will ever do anything about it.
its been like this for years. im guessing its another one of them problems that would take a whole rewrite to fix.
A whole rewrite? burned into the code? I think this would be quite simple to implement. Can anyone here comment what current code could logically interfere with this feature. And believe me I'm the last one that wants any new feature and 3 old features break :(

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Re: I'm going back to Logic for arranging

Post by UnCL0NED » Thu Apr 08, 2010 7:55 am

... I'm not sure if get the issue, but if I do understand correctly:
I always select everything and duplicate (cmd+d) and then start deleting what I don't want. It's in general a faster way of working than selecting small parts and then drag them to the right! I understand it's different in Logic. It just depends on your work flow.
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Re: I'm going back to Logic for arranging

Post by swishniak » Thu Apr 08, 2010 8:45 am

wouldnt command+click+drag do this?

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Re: I'm going back to Logic for arranging

Post by Markemark » Thu Apr 08, 2010 8:48 am

swishniak wrote:wouldnt command+click+drag do this?
Can you believe it!! Nope :(

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Re: I'm going back to Logic for arranging

Post by Lazos » Thu Apr 08, 2010 8:51 am

Ah! I see what you are saying digid. Yes, it would be nice if Live shift-selected non-contiguous clips in the Arrangement view. This IS what everyone is talking about, right? You can do this midi Clip view, so it is really too bad you can't in Arrangement. Perhaps Live 9.

I don't know why you have the grid markers in the screenshot turned off (especially since by the nature of your post, the relationship between the clips is important), but I would just move each clip individually in the example by counting bars and beat markers. It'd take about 1 minute to 5 minutes depending on how fine you wanted to zoom in and drop your clips. But that's just my workflow. :)

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Re: I'm going back to Logic for arranging

Post by digid » Thu Apr 08, 2010 8:56 am

lazos: I usually work with non-rhytmic music, so I tend to turn off the grid - it's just distracting. :)

But, I agree, your tip would definitely work better with beats, even though it shouldn't be that hard to begin with. But that's another story, it seems ...
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Re: I'm going back to Logic for arranging

Post by siliconarc » Thu Apr 08, 2010 9:22 am

Posted a question about this issue last week.
It's on the to-do list, according to Kleine:
http://forum.ableton.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=139753

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Re: I'm going back to Logic for arranging

Post by swishniak » Thu Apr 08, 2010 11:50 am

Markemark wrote:
swishniak wrote:wouldnt command+click+drag do this?
Can you believe it!! Nope :(
um it does for me

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Re: I'm going back to Logic for arranging

Post by siliconarc » Thu Apr 08, 2010 12:07 pm

swishniak wrote:
Markemark wrote:
swishniak wrote:wouldnt command+click+drag do this?
Can you believe it!! Nope :(
um it does for me
only in session, not arrange

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Re: I'm going back to Logic for arranging

Post by swishniak » Thu Apr 08, 2010 12:08 pm

[quote="garyboozy"
only in session, not arrange[/quote]

no it works in arrange too

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Re: I'm going back to Logic for arranging

Post by siliconarc » Thu Apr 08, 2010 5:01 pm

good for you. maybe you should let Christian know, so he can take it off of Ableton's to-do list.
kleine wrote:Object selection is on the list (in addition to the current time selection).

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Re: I'm going back to Logic for arranging

Post by digid » Thu Apr 08, 2010 5:08 pm

garyboozy wrote:good for you. maybe you should let Christian know, so he can take it off of Ableton's to-do list.
kleine wrote:Object selection is on the list (in addition to the current time selection).

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Take what off the list? Clip selection? There is NO clip selection in the Arrangement window, if anyone thinks so it's a misunderstanding. You can only select one clip, or you can select several contiguous clips using time selector. You cannot select multiple, non-contigous clips in the arrangement window. That is why I posted the original post.
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Re: I'm going back to Logic for arranging

Post by Tone Deft » Thu Apr 08, 2010 5:50 pm

Gary is agreeing with you, he's being sarcastic in saying that Ableton should take it off their 'to do' list. he quoted kleine, an Ableton employee saying that it's on their list of features to implement.


nice catch Gary, I wasn't sure what the OP was up to but didn't want to reply until I tried it. very very strange this feature is missing.

digid - nice catch, yeah that sucks. as mentioned before I'd copy the clips to new tracks, delete the stuff you don't want to move then select it all in one chunk of time, move it then put them back into the original tracks, making sure I use a large snap to grid value so I keep them on the beat.
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Re: I'm going back to Logic for arranging

Post by 3dot... » Thu Apr 08, 2010 6:18 pm

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Re: I'm going back to Logic for arranging

Post by cacti » Thu Apr 08, 2010 7:57 pm

im thinking of switching to logic cuz Albeton KEEPS CRASHING ON ME!!!

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