8.1.3???

Tone Deft · Post by **Tone Deft** » Mon Apr 12, 2010 7:44 pm

desktop I presume?

I fixed a laptop overheating issue with a new battery. after 5 years the battery wouldn't hold a charge and the charging circuit couldn't actually charge it, it just ran constantly, generating a lot of heat. the bug was instant shut downs but Live could recover.

SubFunk · Post by **SubFunk** » Mon Apr 12, 2010 7:53 pm

@ well it is a laptop (mbp) and the battery is not the fittest anymore, but i start 8.1.3b2 and immediately the temp and fans jump like mad into the sky, once i shut live down everything goes back to normal!

and that is supposed to be a battery issue?, well seems odd to me.

and does anyone know if the kernel panic (grey curtain on OSX) can be caused by overheating?

or must it be something else?

i never had that before.

Tone Deft · Post by **Tone Deft** » Mon Apr 12, 2010 8:00 pm

SubFunk wrote:@ well it is a laptop (mbp) and the battery is not the fittest anymore, but i start 8.1.3b2 and immediately the temp and fans jump like mad into the sky, once i shut live down everything goes back to normal!

and that is supposed to be a battery issue?, well seems odd to me.

that's how my issues started. I'd launch a game, the fans would spin up after a bit the laptop would crash. I tried a vacuum cleaner to suck the dust out. I tried to take it apart (3 times) to get to the heat sink (can't.) I put a desktop supply's fan next to it to blow cool air on the laptop, no luck. then I just bought a new battery, now all's well, the fans are quiet.

SubFunk · Post by **SubFunk** » Mon Apr 12, 2010 8:36 pm

Ok, i take that, it's time for a new battery anyhow.

still an odd coincidence that once live 8.1.3b2 runs it happens (the temp / fan jump) and when i shut it down it's Ok. well after all the odd behaviour i encountered with live i should not be surprised, or should i?

Tone Deft · Post by **Tone Deft** » Mon Apr 12, 2010 8:38 pm

maybe, maybe not. I should have mentioned that my HP laptop won't run without a battery in it. maybe try running yours without the battery, then there's nothing to drive the charging circuit crazy.

SubFunk · Post by **SubFunk** » Mon Apr 12, 2010 8:40 pm

Tone Deft wrote:maybe, maybe not. I should have mentioned that my HP laptop won't run without a battery in it. maybe try running yours without the battery, then there's nothing to drive the charging circuit crazy.

i think the MBP needs the battery, but good point i will try that.

Poster · Post by **Poster** » Mon Apr 12, 2010 8:45 pm

SubFunk wrote: and does anyone know if the kernel panic (grey curtain on OSX) can be caused by overheating?

or must it be something else?

i never had that before.

yep.. I experienced that before with a MBP..
I think it's a sort of build-in protective mechanism that when it gets too hot it shuts itself down..

H20nly · Post by **H20nly** » Mon Apr 12, 2010 10:02 pm

Poster wrote:
SubFunk wrote: and does anyone know if the kernel panic (grey curtain on OSX) can be caused by overheating?

or must it be something else?

i never had that before.
yep.. I experienced that before with a MBP..
I think it's a sort of build-in protective mechanism that when it gets too hot it shuts itself down..

careful though... thats playing with fire. Your motherboard and/or CPU get too hot too many times and one of them will get fried permanent style. Mac or no Mac "protective mechanism".

If/when that damage occurs, all the coders in the world working on Live won't be able to make it work on your computer.

LoopStationZebra · Post by **LoopStationZebra** » Tue Apr 13, 2010 12:01 am

Tarekith wrote:I used it last night for my live gig, worked great, whew. One of the other guys going after me (Noah Pred, the only Ableton Certified trainer in Canada) had a couple issues getting his to launch though. He says he's been having that problem for awhile now though.

You're very buff. If I show up at your next gig and start yelling "Play Some White Trash! Play Some White Trash!" will you promise to Man-Handle me?

*wink wink*

3phase · Post by **3phase** » Tue Apr 13, 2010 1:01 am

squelcht wrote:
3phase wrote:

Why is L8 getting allways funny in stage situations? s there a special algorythm tha uses the drop sensor of the laptop to see if its on a vibrating stage?
I think its mental - A mind over matter situation. Somewhere in your brain you are sceptical & paranoid & thus creates a bad energy/brain wave/neuro chaotic frequency that your computer picks up on & makes it behave fuct up. Maybe it's even being detected & transmitted via the wireless antenna/bluetooth inside the laptop. Hmmm... Just a simple theory - And I base it on nothing more but the natual principle of chaos theory. And the I-Ching. Desgard all conscious will & desire & the subconscious shall take lead.

Just a idea.

interesting theorie.. but it only happens with L8.. so i am only mental about L8? possible..

and the ableton trainer guy

Tarekith wrote:
I used it last night for my live gig, worked great, whew. One of the other guys going after me (Noah Pred, the only Ableton Certified trainer in Canada) had a couple issues getting his to launch though. He says he's been having that problem for awhile now though.

HAs he used the L8.13 beta too?
I didnt had any issues in the studio that it refused to load the set..
after many years having computers on stage i getting the feeling that its too risky and i maybe should use an mpc again... just no laptop at all

Tarekith · Post by **Tarekith** » Tue Apr 13, 2010 1:51 am

I've had very few issues on stage with a laptop luckily, but enough in the studio to always give me pause.

SubFunk · Post by **SubFunk** » Tue Apr 13, 2010 6:52 am

Well i don't think a kernel panic is a security measure, i just need to figure if it the overheating is related to the battery (and it is a coincidence) or related to the latest beta of live.

Sibanger · Post by **Sibanger** » Tue Apr 13, 2010 7:39 am

http://forum.ableton.com/viewtopic.php? ... 5#p1114235

WTF????

Looks like 8.1.3 has totally died, and killed off the official release as well.

Is this possible?

slirak · Post by **slirak** » Tue Apr 13, 2010 8:06 am

Sibanger wrote:http://forum.ableton.com/viewtopic.php? ... 5#p1114235

WTF????

Looks like 8.1.3 has totally died, and killed off the official release as well.

Is this possible?

Ehh, the guy deleted the library.cfg file, no wonder Live reinstalled the library then. Should've deleted the preferences.cfg file instead, surely?

hoffman2k · Post by **hoffman2k** » Tue Apr 13, 2010 8:35 am

slirak wrote:
Sibanger wrote:http://forum.ableton.com/viewtopic.php? ... 5#p1114235

WTF????

Looks like 8.1.3 has totally died, and killed off the official release as well.

Is this possible?
Ehh, the guy deleted the library.cfg file, no wonder Live reinstalled the library then. Should've deleted the preferences.cfg file instead, surely?

Yeah. Preferences are made with each version, but there is only one library.

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