Surround Sound in Ableton Live

Discuss music production with Ableton Live.

Does Live 9 need (intuitive) surround sound support?

I want it for 5.1 film surround sound mixing.
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18%
I want to start composing 5.1/quadraphonic/octaphonic music.
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38%
I haven't felt the need for it yet, but I'll surely give it a try.
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8%
I'd rather have Ableton implement other features.
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31%
There's better software to do this.
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4%
 
Total votes: 178

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Re: The (hopefully soon to be) ultimate SURROUND sound topic!

Post by chris vine » Thu May 13, 2010 3:28 pm

^ Thanks 3dot, good to know.

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Post by rutgermuller » Thu May 13, 2010 4:33 pm

Well it does. See the patch offered above. It automates send signals.

But Max For Live patches output only stereo audio signals, that's true, and a shame I guess...

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Post by 3dot... » Thu May 13, 2010 4:39 pm

^^
it's a workaround to a workaround.. same as for the sysex issues... kinda sick of workarounds..
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Post by dum » Thu May 13, 2010 4:41 pm

SubFunk wrote:i voted 'there is better software to do this'

i under no circumstances want to see that ableton ever implements that, get another apps if you do stuff like that.

damn, we have enough nightmare with live already to put in what others do much better already.

get logic, or something along those lines.
I agree, in essence, that Live should prioritise Live issues - not daw issues.

However, you seem to be inferring that live performance is a stereo only affair. With that I couldn't disagree more.

So, +1 to Surround Sound support from me - especially in the context of performance.
Pasha wrote:Thanks dum for being so precise.

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Post by Lazos » Thu May 13, 2010 5:35 pm

dum wrote: Live should prioritise Live issues - not daw issues.

However, [Subfunk] seem[s] to be inferring that live performance is a stereo only affair. With that I couldn't disagree more.

So, +1 to Surround Sound support from me - especially in the context of performance.
Yes!

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Re: The (hopefully soon to be) ultimate SURROUND sound topic!

Post by rutgermuller » Fri May 14, 2010 9:08 pm

Ableton is welcome to give an opinion as well :)

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Re: The (hopefully soon to be) ultimate SURROUND sound topic!

Post by oblique strategies » Fri May 14, 2010 10:46 pm

Do not hold thy breath...

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Post by BOB Cooper » Mon May 17, 2010 12:35 pm

Lazos wrote:
dum wrote:

So, +1 to Surround Sound support from me - especially in the context of performance.
Yes!
Yes Yes !

It's so sad that it is still that rare nowadays (and I don't understand it).
and so hard to get the gear for it in venues.
I hope I'll really be able to do it quite often in the future.
rutgermuller wrote:Has anyone been doing live sets in surround?
In quad for live situations (for the performance from which you can find teasers on my myspace page), also Octophony but not "live" (electroacoustic diffusion of a composition).

I have more experience with stereo tracks played on acousmonium (up to 48 spatialized speakers). It's not live, it's not separate channels, but it really can give deep living and quasi organic sensations (my piece "Ice Breakdown" you can also find below, was suuuuch a pleasure to play in a large venue with all those speakers all around... this way body and mind can really live the music toghether in an attentive manner)

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Post by davepermen » Mon May 17, 2010 12:50 pm

I could use it for some art-installations of some friends. they'd loove tons of speakers, each doing "it's part".

oh, and dum: subfunk doesn't think liveperformance is a stereo-thing. mostly, it's a mono thing :)

but sure depends on the musical scene. more art-style setups like real multisources. clubs, mono can be enough.
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Post by 3dot... » Mon May 17, 2010 8:25 pm

oblique strategies wrote:Do not hold thy breath...
in the latest meeting they have decided it is counter-productive to say anything here.. :lol:
(but the bugfix logs are back !)
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Post by madlab » Sat May 29, 2010 3:40 pm

It is such a pain to have to draw envelopes to play this kind of stuff in my work for theater, and that prevents me from trying this kind of things on the fly. So +111111
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Post by oblique strategies » Sat May 29, 2010 11:01 pm

3dot... wrote:
oblique strategies wrote:Do not hold thy breath...
in the latest meeting they have decided it is counter-productive to say anything here.. :lol:
(but the bugfix logs are back !)
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Post by 3dot... » Sat May 29, 2010 11:29 pm

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Re: The (hopefully soon to be) ultimate SURROUND sound topic!

Post by rutgermuller » Thu Jun 10, 2010 5:53 am

madlab wrote:It is such a pain to have to draw envelopes to play this kind of stuff in my work for theater, and that prevents me from trying this kind of things on the fly.
I know what you mean.

Any more news so far people?


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