How to create real melodies

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How to create real melodies

Post by GDOGG » Tue Sep 21, 2010 7:04 pm

So i'm running a demo version of live 8 atm, still very much learning the ropes and figuring out what does what, and I've also been messing on trying to make some simple beats. But just wanted to know whats the best way to get some real melody into my tunes. Because it's a demo im limited in what i can access from its library but even so i'd still appreciate any advice, because i will eventually get round to buying the full version how to make music that has more than a simple backing beat and not much else. Also does having a midi controller make life a lot easier when composing, editing etc.
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Re: How to create real melodies

Post by evernaut » Tue Sep 21, 2010 7:42 pm

Rip off something you dig & change it a bit.

Or a lot, if you're feeling particularly on it.

Repeat until it sounds like you.

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Re: How to create real melodies

Post by Bagatell » Tue Sep 21, 2010 8:02 pm

"Musical Palette program is a tool for the creation of 'theoretically correct' melodies.

The program is based on composition theory and the theory of harmony. The strong theoretical base makes the melody composing process easier."


http://www.palette-mct.com/

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Re: How to create real melodies

Post by ionic » Tue Sep 21, 2010 8:25 pm

please dont use programs. listen to your head, when you hear something, try to translate it on your keyboard. or just tap out to rhythm of the meoldy, then move the notes to the correct place on your piano roll.

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Re: How to create real melodies

Post by Bagatell » Wed Sep 22, 2010 7:28 am

ionic wrote:please dont use programs. listen to your head, when you hear something, try to translate it on your keyboard. or just tap out to rhythm of the meoldy, then move the notes to the correct place on your piano roll.
Do you use any of Live's midi devices?

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Re: How to create real melodies

Post by leedsquietman » Wed Sep 22, 2010 7:32 am

Is this thread for real ? I can sense a real GOTCHA coming on here ...
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Re: How to create real melodies

Post by carrieres » Wed Sep 22, 2010 3:38 pm

Bagatell wrote:"Musical Palette program is a tool for the creation of 'theoretically correct' melodies.

The program is based on composition theory and the theory of harmony. The strong theoretical base makes the melody composing process easier."


http://www.palette-mct.com/

When you know the rules you can have some real fun breaking them :)
i will try, thanks
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Re: How to create real melodies

Post by chapelier fou » Wed Sep 22, 2010 6:15 pm

use real notes ?
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Re: How to create real melodies

Post by dton » Wed Sep 22, 2010 6:21 pm

I'd start with getting a pair of real ears.
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Re: How to create real melodies

Post by Dr. Fluffenstein » Wed Sep 22, 2010 6:48 pm

I think what the OP is talking about is creating melodies that are correct from a music theory point of view, like call + response, and how they should interact with the progression.

@OP: Learning how to play a keyboard goes a long way, that way when you get an idea you can play it without fumbling and forgetting it, and you can freely improvise if you know which notes are in a key. Read up on some basic music theory.

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Re: How to create real melodies

Post by casiblake » Wed Sep 22, 2010 6:58 pm

Dr. Fluffenstein wrote:@OP: Learning how to play a keyboard goes a long way, that way when you get an idea you can play it without fumbling and forgetting it, and you can freely improvise if you know which notes are in a key. Read up on some basic music theory.
People not doing this would "explain" the wasteland that currently is minimal techno... :roll:

Anyway, this is the best advice. My keys skills suck and I aint going to give Rick Wakeman any reason to lose sleep, but I still practice scales wherever I can because it helps enormously. Jam along to tracks you like, as well. Try and work out some of the melodies in those tracks and learn to play them.
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Re: How to create real melodies

Post by continuous » Thu Sep 23, 2010 3:51 am

good melodies from the heart right?

;-)

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Re: How to create real melodies

Post by Buleriachk » Thu Sep 23, 2010 4:23 am

FWIW, I have a harmony analysis on my Website (for flamenco (Music Theory for Flamenco), but it covers major, melodic/harmonic minor and Phrygian Mode. The Compas Analysis covers basic rhythm.....

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