Warp full length tracks the easy way - includes movie

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Post by WaveRider » Mon May 16, 2005 2:50 pm

sickpuppy wrote:t I'm going to use a James Brown tune for my 'bad-tempo warping' movie coz some of his stuff is just awful. might have been a funky drummer but his timing was flippin awful...
it is called groove!!!!!! :wink:

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Post by sickpuppy » Tue May 17, 2005 5:00 pm

jesus, sorry for abusing JB (well clyde anyways) no offense was intended he/his band are one of my all time faves, all I was trying to say that if you wanted to DJ with a JB track you'd have a nightmare, that was all...

sinjin, glad the movie helped...
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Post by sickpuppy » Thu May 19, 2005 12:46 pm

just for info in the 13 days they have been up:

429 downloads 13,171.72 MB bandwidth used

thanks to everyone who's looked so far, I will probably be taking them down in a day or two so get them while you can. They will then be replaced with 2 new ones.

Thanks,
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Post by Nev » Thu May 19, 2005 8:46 pm

Just to say, THANKS.

Very Helpful to me.

Nev
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Post by catalyst » Sun May 22, 2005 7:07 pm

All bandwidth used :(

As a newbie trying to quickly get into the swing of things I would very much like to see these movies if anyone has the bandwidth to host them again ?

cheers 8)

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Post by sickpuppy » Mon May 23, 2005 1:07 pm

yep, I'm not going to be posting them again but I will streamload them to anyone with an account there...

if anyone else has any hosting space and can/wants to put them up then feel free, or if anyone can suggest where i can host them for free. Bear in mind their size...

couple of new ones going up in a few days...
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Post by catalyst » Mon May 23, 2005 9:12 pm

ok mate, no probs - could you possibly streamload them to me @ the following account name:

catalyst_glasgow

that would be great, thanks :)

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Post by audiostatic » Tue May 31, 2005 3:13 pm

@ sickpuppy

please my i have the Live warping vid...stream to the following account please:

severence

thanx you so much sickpuppy 8)

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Post by sickpuppy » Wed Jun 01, 2005 9:53 am

Hi everyone,
Thanks to a very generous forum member, Andy Bohne, they are back up again for a while. You can get them from here:

http://www.andrewbohne.com/downloads/warping.mov
http://www.andrewbohne.com/downloads/warping2.mov

Once again, thanks to Andy for hosting and thanks to you guys for watching, I shall be posting the new ones shortly.

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Post by audiostatic » Wed Jun 01, 2005 5:55 pm

thanx dudes :)

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Post by AKutcher » Fri Jun 10, 2005 1:21 am

serotoninsteve was all like:
Nice movie, but I would recommend you to use the metronome and your ears to find the right place for the markers.
I´m pretty sure that your beats are slighly behind when listening to the metronome.
and then sickpuppy was all:
I'm not quite sure what you're saying as there is no metronome recorded??
I've never used the metronome in Live, don't even know where it is.
What's up dudes!

serotoninsteve, you're not crazy, but dude, ...just got Punked!

Man, Pup, you are soooo wasted...
dude i thought i was baked.

Man...

You like, TOTALLY turned the freekin' metronome on
YOURSELF in that last film with the
human resource / choo choo romero mix!
wtf/lol

am i the only one watching these things?

it IS a big deal, you know.

you're teaching,
and that kind of inconsistancy
confuses the crap out of people.
I'm watching every move you make when you do your thing, so

:) you better tighten up clown. :)
your all punked

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Post by Former Pharaoh » Fri Jun 10, 2005 3:03 am

I have been using Live to create loops (combine to form sets) and songs but mixing other artists' music within Live was FAR from my idea of having fun creating. After watching these videos, I can see how easy it could be (and strangely fun..again). I may just reconsider.
Thanks Sick Puppy.... :wink:

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Post by sickpuppy » Fri Jun 10, 2005 7:54 am

AKutcher - I did the second movie AFTER those comments to prove that it did stay in time with the metronome.

It was only coz I was told where the metronome was that I used it, before that I hadn't used it ever... :roll:

Man, dude, man, totally, dude, whoooaaa I ain't no clown :D

Former Pharaoh - Don't think of it as normal full-track DJing, you can do soooooo much with Live that you couldn't do on decks... mess that sound up, crunch it about and just use tracks as sound sources rather than songs...
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Post by serotoninsteve » Fri Jun 10, 2005 11:31 am

OK,

Sickpuppy, your method to set the markers is correct, if you compare it (means listen) to a straight drumloop imported into Live with a similar bassdrum as your song, or if you use Microtonic as example on a miditrack to warp your tunes.

What I´ve done in the past was listening (xtremely accurate) to the metronome for warping, and my markers where at the peak (not the beginning) of the beats, if I had placed them at the beginning it makes clickboom.

I was wrong!

The reason is that the sounds used for the metronome don´t have any (or very very short) attack, but a bassdrum has compared to a long attack.
Import the sounds from the ableton folder into impulse and create the same loop as the metronome is , record it into a new track and look at it.

All my tracks where in sync, no problem so far! But compared to microtonic (wich is thight to the clock) they where slighly out of sync.

I recommend that you choose 2 or 3 straight drumloops with different sounds and choose the one wich maches your song, and listen to it while putting the markers until you get the best punch out of them.

Appologies for confusing things here!

Greetings


PS: Now that I´ve to correct my whole library here´s a tip:
Click on a warpmarker, ctrl+a and move them all slighly to the left if needed.
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Post by sickpuppy » Fri Jun 10, 2005 12:05 pm

serotoninsteve - thanks for your confession :D I have a little one of my own...

how the hell do you mark tracks by ear?

I can't see any way of setting a marker whilst a song is playing and the waveform is scrolling by... just trying to click on the scroller stops it anyway and I can't see how that would be accurate...

I'm going to stick to my method but I'd like to see what results I get doing things your way! plus if I do get decent results then I may well make a movie of that as well to give people more options...

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