Ableton Live 64-bit, when?

[GiveUsLive9]

It's really sad how old this thread is, still with no sign of 64bit on the horizon. No news from Ableton, aside from beta versions of 8.3....
8.3?!! Really? Why?!!

So many desperately hoped for a Live 9 announcement at NAMM, which never happened, but would have been way overdue at that point.

Everyone I collaborate with has left Live for something else, mostly because of 64bit functionality, and also for multiple monitor support. I loved Live.
But that is becoming truly past tense, out of sheer frustration at Ableton's stagnation. We don't need more built-in instruments. We don't need more Live Packs.

Ableton, we need you to LISTEN TO US when we demand necessary core features.

Ableton, you need to get your act together. Release Live 9 with x64 and multiple monitor support soon, or Bitwig Studio will bankrupt you upon its release.
You need to have thousands upon thousands of clients financially invested in Live 9 by Bitwig's release, or the migration of the rest of your users will happen very quickly. Their beta is almost ready...
Even if you implement those 2 features (the 2 most requested features for years now) Bitwig's feature set looks like it will still completely smoke Live's.

My money is waiting for whoever finishes first....

[H20nly]

you didn't see the memo?

Ableton is actually waiting for all the pretentious pattern makers to migrate away first.

[dab]

Starting to smell like Mackie's Tracktion to me!

[GiveUsLive9]

you didn't see the memo?

Ableton is actually waiting for all the pretentious pattern makers to migrate away first.

Lol! Yeah, well, that's 90% of the fan-base right there.

Although, these pretentious pattern makers are all they cater to with their latest partnered instrument:

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Get the breaks you need and the tools to make them yours. Hip Hop Drums features a set of original loops and drum sounds inspired by classic samples, from muffled jazzy hi-hats to thumping distorted kicks. Plus, use custom Effect Racks to get just the right pumping, vintage feel.

Attention Ableton: We need this ^ like old coffee needs more sugar.
Can we just get some fresh coffee around here?

[cotdagoo]

Their beta is almost ready...

What tells you that? Their website's been saying the beta is almost ready since January.. I wouldn't be holding by breath.

[Nicknackerski]

No question is so difficult to answer as that which the answer is obvious.

[Slightlydelic]

at the end of the day no one has a divine right to new features or a new version. making demands for such is just silly.

[Nicknackerski]

at the end of the day no one has a divine right to new features or a new version. making demands for such is just silly.

At the end of the day it is night.

Lets be honest, its the topic that every person who uses Live is intersted in.
The site Went down for an hr yesterday i spotted 130 people logged in. At 10am.

[gizmo]

always asking for features and stuff.......and there's other people actually working with live,with all of the "limitations", making great stuff....why can't you just make music like the others?... just sayin'...

[Nicknackerski]

always asking for features and stuff.......and there's other people actually working with live,with all of the "limitations", making great stuff....why can't you just make music like the others?... just sayin'...

whats wrong with doing both?

[gizmo]

always asking for features and stuff.......and there's other people actually working with live,with all of the "limitations", making great stuff....why can't you just make music like the others?... just sayin'...

whats wrong with doing both?

nothing.......but if you're productive and happy with the stuff you make i'm sure we would have less people asking for new features.

[andydes]

Giveuslive9- you're right. The software no one has tried will wipe the floor with the software that's not been announced. How can you have so much blind faith in one company and none at all in a similar company?

Being first out won't decide anything. A good solid release is much more important. Especially after the live 8 issues.

At the very least, no one will jump ship until bitwig releases commercially. If ableton want to head off the early adopters, they need a beta out at this time. Right now, there is A big board in ableton hq with all the bitwig features known next to all the live 9 features planned and lots of things written in coloured pen.

To be honest,even if live 9 is ready for beta now, the smartest thing they can do is wait til they've tried the opposition's software themselves.

[ark]

I do not think we will see a 64-bit version of Live until about the time we see a 64-bit version of Max. Cycling'74 has said that they're working on a 64-bit version, but haven't said anything about when they expect to release it.

[GiveUsLive9]

Thanks for the feedback guys. The topic needs conversation and input from all sides.

What tells you that? Their website's been saying the beta is almost ready since January.. I wouldn't be holding by breath.

@ctodagoo Check their latest tweet and other recent news from them.

at the end of the day no one has a divine right to new features or a new version. making demands for such is just silly.

@Slightlydelic Nope. No divine right to be sure. However, this is a monetary matter. If a product fails to grow with the competition, the product fails.
The demand is this: Add the features, or get no more money. It's not like demanding features from a company with a near monopoly like Microsoft or OSX.
This is like demanding power-steering for new Ford vehicles, after all the other car manufacturers have adopted it, with no news from the the Ford
folks on when, if ever, it will be implemented. There are many DAWs. Most all the others support the 64bit plugins that most of the community is now using.
Most DAWs can take advantage of the large amounts of RAM current computers have. Multiple-monitor setups are all too common now.
Ableton is free to stagnate, but regrettably for all involved, they lose the ability to compete.

always asking for features and stuff.......and there's other people actually working with live,with all of the "limitations", making great stuff....why can't you just make music like the others?... just sayin'...

No doubt. And the Amish craft some amazing furniture with no electricity. However, you are reading this on what? Why can't you be happy limited to what the Amish have? Is that s a bit extreme? Fine. Why can't you be happy with an Atari ST, running Cubase 1.0? From Wikipedia:

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The ST was also the first home computer with integrated MIDI support. Thanks to its built-in MIDI, it enjoyed success for running music-sequencer software and as a controller of musical instruments among amateurs and professionals alike, being used in concert by bands and performers such as Jean Michel Jarre, Madonna, Tangerine Dream, Fatboy Slim, and 1990s UK dance act 808 State, as well as naming German digital hardcore band Atari Teenage Riot.

Giveuslive9- you're right. The software no one has tried will wipe the floor with the software that's not been announced. How can you have so much blind faith in one company and none at all in a similar company?

Are you not aware that the Bitwig team features several ex-Ableton team members? This is why it looks so much like Live, and why is is sometimes nicknamed "Ableton Plus." As for having no faith
in Ableton? I never said that. However, if they'd promised Live 9 (even a beta) soon, I'd believe them. But as for news of Live 9? ...crickets... What's to put faith in? Faith is a ridiculous
notion anyway. Loyalty is more on topic. And I feel let down.

Being first out won't decide anything.

It will decide who gets my money.

At the very least, no one will jump ship until bitwig releases commercially. If ableton want to head off the early adopters, they need a beta out at this time. Right now, there is A big board in ableton hq with all the bitwig features known next to all the live 9 features planned and lots of things written in coloured pen.

Yes, Ableton needs a beta out at this time. A beta of Live 9, not this Live 8.3 beta they are doing.

To be honest,even if live 9 is ready for beta now, the smartest thing they can do is wait til they've tried the opposition's software themselves.

They used to work with these guys and know what to expect. There's no need to wait. And in the current world of expensive software, releasing first has proven to be all that matters.
People get invested. If the grass ends up looking greener on the other side, it will take a while before people are willing to shell out so much money again. The grass has to get pretty
brown where you're at to consider moving at that point. Brown, like being the only DAW stuck at 32bit and confined to 1 monitor.

Did I mention Bitwig will run on Linux? That's a large untapped sector of nerds.

[gizmo]

always asking for features and stuff.......and there's other people actually working with live,with all of the "limitations", making great stuff....why can't you just make music like the others?... just sayin'...

No doubt. And the Amish craft some amazing furniture with no electricity. However, you are reading this on what? Why can't you be happy limited to what the Amish have? Is that s a bit extreme? Fine. Why can't you be happy with an Atari ST, running Cubase 1.0? From Wikipedia:

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The ST was also the first home computer with integrated MIDI support. Thanks to its built-in MIDI, it enjoyed success for running music-sequencer software and as a controller of musical instruments among amateurs and professionals alike, being used in concert by bands and performers such as Jean Michel Jarre, Madonna, Tangerine Dream, Fatboy Slim, and 1990s UK dance act 808 State, as well as naming German digital hardcore band Atari Teenage Riot.

Seems that with the technology live provides right now you can't make music, i wonder if is music what you should do...