Help with Operator automation

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massivewolf
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Help with Operator automation

Post by massivewolf » Thu Feb 04, 2016 10:17 pm

Sometimes I think Ableton's trying to get me sent straight to the loony bin.

I have a video-gamish synth sound that I made from Operator and made chords out of and to make it a little more interesting, I automated Octave and Semi knobs. I also threw in Arpeggiator.

Anyway, whenever I lock automation then duplicate this sound, it completely changes in octave, tone, chord, etc. It's really frustrating and I have no clue why it's doing that. Any thoughts? Resampling changes the audio quality. Unless I'm not doing it right. I'll post audio samples in a minute.
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massivewolf
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Re: Help with Operator automation

Post by massivewolf » Thu Feb 04, 2016 10:36 pm

OK. I've narrowed it down to the Arpeggiator being the culprit.

Da hand
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Re: Help with Operator automation

Post by Da hand » Thu Feb 04, 2016 11:06 pm

"Locking" the automation with the lock button in Arrangement view does the opposite to what one would normally expect from something that is locked in place. When you copy, move, duplicate, etc... your clips with the lock "on", in Live it means the automation envelopes stay "locked" to the timeline and not the clips, thus the automation is not copied or moved to the new clip position(s).

So in your case, if you copy your MIDI clips with the lock "on", the octave, tone, chord, etc. automation will not be copied.

massivewolf
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Re: Help with Operator automation

Post by massivewolf » Thu Feb 04, 2016 11:31 pm

Da hand wrote:"Locking" the automation with the lock button in Arrangement view does the opposite to what one would normally expect from something that is locked in place. When you copy, move, duplicate, etc... your clips with the lock "on", in Live it means the automation envelopes stay "locked" to the timeline and not the clips, thus the automation is not copied or moved to the new clip position(s).

So in your case, if you copy your MIDI clips with the lock "on", the octave, tone, chord, etc. automation will not be copied.
Ah ok, well I also unlocked it and it still didn't help!

massivewolf
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Re: Help with Operator automation

Post by massivewolf » Fri Feb 05, 2016 6:42 am

Figured it out. There was a tiny bit of space right in front of the duplicated copy. I nudged it over very very slightly and now it sounds how it should.

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Re: Help with Operator automation

Post by Da hand » Fri Feb 05, 2016 5:35 pm

Glad you found a solution!

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