(OT)(no politics just art)ruins of detroit

mike holiday · Post by **mike holiday** » Thu Sep 15, 2005 10:44 pm

drush wrote: but don't be fooled by the romantic images guys. detroit is a hellhole and only getting worse.

very much the image of "throw-away" culture
but shit i didn't mean for this to be political
...ugggg...i bet my hippie-ness is showing now

tribalogical · Post by **tribalogical** » Thu Sep 15, 2005 10:48 pm

awesome stuff... what an amazing effort by one person....

almost makes me want to organize a "musician's exodus" to buy, restore, and create a new center of music in old Detroit..... what an opportunity!

sadly, no money for such a bold endeavor....

peace,
tribalogical

drush · Post by **drush** » Thu Sep 15, 2005 11:06 pm

mike holiday wrote:
drush wrote: but don't be fooled by the romantic images guys. detroit is a hellhole and only getting worse.
very much the image of "throw-away" culture
but shit i didn't mean for this to be political
...ugggg...i bet my hippie-ness is showing now

the photos are representative of "throw-away" culture or my comments are? i assume you mean the former.

conny · Post by **conny** » Thu Sep 15, 2005 11:51 pm

Thanks for links.
I have a feeling for these things.
Maybe that's why I photo things like this:

and

// C

conny · Post by **conny** » Fri Sep 16, 2005 12:00 am

BTW, one of my favourite electro acoustic pieces is "The Pleasure of Ruins" by Gregory Whitehead.

http://mediamogul.seas.upenn.edu/pennso ... s_1987.mp3

// C

mike holiday · Post by **mike holiday** » Fri Sep 16, 2005 3:06 am

drush wrote:the photos are representative of "throw-away" culture or my comments are? i assume you mean the former.

definatly talking about the former (ie. the city that got thrown into the trashcan)

well i guess it's flint that really got tossed away

conny · Post by **conny** » Fri Sep 16, 2005 4:50 pm

So what happened to Detroit?
Japan took over the car building?
Or US companies found it was cheaper to produce things out of the US?

// C

hoffman2k · Post by **hoffman2k** » Fri Sep 16, 2005 5:02 pm

conny wrote:So what happened to Detroit?
Japan took over the car building?
Or US companies found it was cheaper to produce things out of the US?

// C

I'm no historian. But i think the closing of the GM factory was a major blow to detroit.
I remember seeing a micheal moore documentary about it. "Roger and me".
It's worth checking out.

ishimaru · Post by **ishimaru** » Fri Sep 16, 2005 6:05 pm

Ford's HQ is in a brand new building here in Irvine California.

mike holiday · Post by **mike holiday** » Fri Sep 16, 2005 6:25 pm

hoffman2k wrote:
conny wrote:So what happened to Detroit?
Japan took over the car building?
Or US companies found it was cheaper to produce things out of the US?

// C
I'm no historian. But i think the closing of the GM factory was a major blow to detroit.
I remember seeing a micheal moore documentary about it. "Roger and me".
It's worth checking out.

GM HQ is still in detroit in that nice hotel right next to hart plaza (where DEMF is held every year)

...it's the factories where everyone worked..

Roger & Me is about Flint, a town 45 miles (all you euro's need to get on our bassakkwards system of measurement so you know haw far a mile is) north of Detroit

what happend ... all the white people moved to the suburbs (includeing my folks)
city peak was 2 million & now it is under 1 million, while the 'burbs have 6 million...so once the people left of course they had to rebuild the factories in mexico

(okay some of the factories move to the burbs but they didn't fare as well)

my pops was in advertiseing so he didn't have to worry to much about closings of things