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missing VsTs

Post by david.barker » Fri Mar 16, 2018 10:43 pm

Hi
I have succumbed to the Ableton Live 10 update,lol :D

Installed fine,but some of my VSts are missing!! :( I have the correct folder (named my plugins) the path to that is correct
,I am using a Windows 7 PC

I have rescanned, some of my VSts are showing up but not others/

Any ideas?
Cheers
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Re: missing VsTs

Post by Mark Williams » Fri Mar 16, 2018 11:40 pm

Live 10 is 64 bit only so any vsts you have that are 32bit will not show up.
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Re: missing VsTs

Post by david.barker » Sat Mar 17, 2018 7:24 am

Mark Williams wrote:Live 10 is 64 bit only so any vsts you have that are 32bit will not show up.
Hi Mark

All my Vst are 64 bit,I forgot to add that in my post.
but thanks for replying

Will have a look around for answers too

cheers
Dave
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Re: missing VsTs

Post by Stromkraft » Sat Mar 17, 2018 8:30 am

david.barker wrote:
Mark Williams wrote:Live 10 is 64 bit only so any vsts you have that are 32bit will not show up.
Hi Mark

All my Vst are 64 bit,I forgot to add that in my post.
but thanks for replying

Will have a look around for answers too

cheers
Dave
Hold down the alt key when scanning. This scans for both old and new plug-ins. Sometimes you need to even turn off plug-ins and reactivate them again.
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Re: missing VsTs

Post by Mark Williams » Sat Mar 17, 2018 5:08 pm

Yeah use the Alt key to do a force re scan of your vsts normally does fix it, as stormkraft suggested :)
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Re: missing VsTs

Post by david.barker » Sat Mar 17, 2018 5:22 pm

Hi Folks :D

Yeah done the hold alt key option,still no joy.Yet my last Live install had no problems.I haven't touched the location of my plugin either

Since I am using that for another well know DAW too,he,he
You can't have enough tools ight,he,he

Been a while since I have used Live,work commitments,not been well,etc,so bit rusty on problem solving

But appreciate all your help :D
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Re: missing VsTs

Post by Stromkraft » Sat Mar 17, 2018 7:51 pm

david.barker wrote:Hi Folks :D

Yeah done the hold alt key option,still no joy.Yet my last Live install had no problems.I haven't touched the location of my plugin either
What about the folder structure? You've made changes to that?
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Re: missing VsTs

Post by david.barker » Sat Mar 17, 2018 8:02 pm

Stromkraft wrote:
david.barker wrote:Hi Folks :D

Yeah done the hold alt key option,still no joy.Yet my last Live install had no problems.I haven't touched the location of my plugin either
What about the folder structure? You've made changes to that?
Hi Stromkraft :D

No I haven;t touched anything like that.Mainly due to the fact I use Live and FL Studio 12, both got features I like,he,he :D
But I am digressing
All my plugins shows up in FL Studio 12 ,no problem there.I use only 64bit ones too.

I have my folder set as C:/Program files/my Plug ins
Will have another look as well

Really Appreciate your help,
Cheers
Dave
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Re: missing VsTs

Post by Stromkraft » Sat Mar 17, 2018 8:07 pm

david.barker wrote:
Stromkraft wrote:
david.barker wrote:Hi Folks :D

Yeah done the hold alt key option,still no joy.Yet my last Live install had no problems.I haven't touched the location of my plugin either
What about the folder structure? You've made changes to that?
Hi Stromkraft :D

No I haven;t touched anything like that.Mainly due to the fact I use Live and FL Studio 12, both got features I like,he,he :D
But I am digressing
All my plugins shows up in FL Studio 12 ,no problem there.I use only 64bit ones too.

I have my folder set as C:/Program files/my Plug ins
Will have another look as well

Really Appreciate your help,
Cheers
Dave
Recently, I had massive issues with Waves plug-ins not being acknowledged and had to delete them including every little preferences file. Hopefully you don't have to do something like that, because it's no fun.

You could try moving Live preferences to the desktop. Which is a longshot, but it's fast to undo. See the help article How to reset Live.
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Re: missing VsTs

Post by david.barker » Sat Mar 17, 2018 9:36 pm

Wow Stromkraft 8O

Bet deleting those preference files was a real pain!!

Hoping this problem is a simple one,as I have installed the Live 9 suite,just to see if the problem is there,it is.

So maybe something I am not seeing or its a senior moment (aged 52) :lol:

Thank you for your help ,will look into what you suggested,I am not a one for giving up.But its a weird problem

Going to have a look at some of the Live 10 videos too ,see whats new

I have also sent a technical help ticket to Ableton,just waiting to hear back.
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Re: missing VsTs

Post by david.barker » Sat Mar 17, 2018 10:34 pm

Ok so good news at last!! :D

What I have discovered is that some of my VsT plugins were in subfolders and not in the main "My Plugins folder" :oops:

So carefully moving them under one roof,under the My plugins one,I have rescanned with Live and now they are showing up!

I need to tidy a couple of folders but all good so far

Will post here,when I have done a test run :D

looks like a long night,thankfully got a day off work tommorow,he,he :D
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Re: missing VsTs

Post by Tarekith » Sun Mar 18, 2018 2:24 am

Thanks for updating us that you got it figured out, and what the issue was.

Go forth, make music. :)

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Re: missing VsTs

Post by david.barker » Sun Mar 18, 2018 7:34 am

Tarekith wrote:Thanks for updating us that you got it figured out, and what the issue was.

Go forth, make music. :)
:D
Thanks a lot Tarekith

And thank you to everyone else ,helping ,me out too. :D
Just need to study the new features of Live 10,he,he first,get acquainted after a long break :D

As music is only a hobby for me sadly,but its not the end of the world.
Cheers
David
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Re: missing VsTs

Post by Alfonx » Fri Apr 13, 2018 9:34 pm

david.barker wrote:I use Live and FL Studio 12, both got features I like,he,he :D
Hi David,
i am using Ableton 9 and i am thinking about buying FL Studio Signature (because i get 30% off and 28 EUR off, about 175 EUR to pay for Signature).
I am still "deep learning" Ableton and i really like that easy sample based functions/Clips and all that.

But back in the days i had Fruity Loops and i was amazed about that piece of Software!!!!!!!
And it got lifetime upgrades!!!

So - i am thinking about buying FL Studio and use both: FL and Ableton.
What do you think - is it really worth buying FL Studio and use it with AL (ReWire?).
The Instruments of FL Studio are FL Studio exclusive - i cant use them as VSTs in Ableton, right?

How do YOU use FL Studio and Ableton together?

Regards
Alfonx
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Re: missing VsTs

Post by MarzT » Sat May 19, 2018 7:00 pm

Alfonx wrote:...
So - i am thinking about buying FL Studio and use both: FL and Ableton.
What do you think - is it really worth buying FL Studio and use it with AL (ReWire?).
The Instruments of FL Studio are FL Studio exclusive - i cant use them as VSTs in Ableton, right?

How do YOU use FL Studio and Ableton together?

Regards
Alfonx
Aha, very cool feature - keep in mind FL Studio can run as a vsti inside ableton. So you run ableton, put fl studio on a midi track, and inside fl studio run your fl studio exclusive synth - but remember if you go "full full" all in purchase version of fl studio, all plugins version of fl studio, you get the vsti versions of synths included like harmor, etc and they work flawlessly in ableton. It's a good idea owning both. I'm on pc gosh darnit and I bought reaper too and yes I even just upgraded my bitwig...

but for FL integration it's easy... check it out: https://youtu.be/TLdbrqtQ72k

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