Driver Error Comp. Keeps Needing to be Reset - 10.0.2

[Jazzy Lazz]

Hey Everyone,

Whenever I set the driver error compensation, the next time I would launch Live I would have to adjust it again. Has this been an issue?

I'd never have to do this with Live 9...it's beginning to become slightly annoying. Or maybe I might be doing something wrong/causing more lag?

Thanks for the help,

Lazz

[Stromkraft]

…I set the delay compensation…

"set"? What do you mean? Audio buffer?

[Jazzy Lazz]

…I set the delay compensation…

"set"? What do you mean? Audio buffer?

Sorry, I meant Driver Error Compensation

[Stromkraft]

Driver Error Compensation

OK. It's still unclear what you specifically mean with "Whenever I set the driver error compensation, the next time I would launch Live I would have to adjust it again". Why would you specifically have to again? Do you make a setting and it doesn't stick? Or is it something else that tells you that you need to make a new adjustment? Does it matter which audio interface is in use? Have you tried several?

I did a quick test with internal audio of my MBP and settings stayed between restarts in Live 10.0.2. But I'm not sure this is your specific issue.

[Angstrom]

I cant say I've ever seen that number in the error compensation box change on its own!
Mine has always been set to 0, and I just checked and it's still zero. I tried changing it to an arbitrary number closing and opening live. It was fine, it remembered what I set it to.
I put it straight back to zero where it belongs. As a benefit of RME I guess, their hardware succesfully reports latency and I don't have to enter a number manually

I know a lot of people don't understand what that latency offset box is actually for.
it's ONLY if you have problems with your interface. Any high quality audio interface should not require a human to type a number in there. Most modern interfaces will report their correct latency and Live will automatically offset for that reported figure. The manual entry box is a last resort only.

https://help.ableton.com/hc/en-us/artic ... mpensation

it's only needed if you have an interface which is not reporting its correct latency to Live

[Stromkraft]

The manual entry box is a last resort only.

Which I have had to resort to at least once with the TR-8.

[Jazzy Lazz]

I cant say I've ever seen that number in the error compensation box change on its own!
Mine has always been set to 0, and I just checked and it's still zero. I tried changing it to an arbitrary number closing and opening live. It was fine, it remembered what I set it to.
I put it straight back to zero where it belongs. As a benefit of RME I guess, their hardware succesfully reports latency and I don't have to enter a number manually

I know a lot of people don't understand what that latency offset box is actually for.
it's ONLY if you have problems with your interface. Any high quality audio interface should not require a human to type a number in there. Most modern interfaces will report their correct latency and Live will automatically offset for that reported figure. The manual entry box is a last resort only.

https://help.ableton.com/hc/en-us/artic ... mpensation

it's only needed if you have an interface which is not reporting its correct latency to Live

I'm sorry for my horrible explanation. What I mean is: once I adjust my error compensation to the right time (let's say 13ms) and close Live, when I relaunch Live, I have to make up for the latency again. Previously in Live 9, once I adjusted my error compensation that was it, I never had to touch it again. In Live 10, I constantly have to readjust the error driver comp.

[Stromkraft]

I cant say I've ever seen that number in the error compensation box change on its own!
Mine has always been set to 0, and I just checked and it's still zero. I tried changing it to an arbitrary number closing and opening live. It was fine, it remembered what I set it to.
I put it straight back to zero where it belongs. As a benefit of RME I guess, their hardware succesfully reports latency and I don't have to enter a number manually

I know a lot of people don't understand what that latency offset box is actually for.
it's ONLY if you have problems with your interface. Any high quality audio interface should not require a human to type a number in there. Most modern interfaces will report their correct latency and Live will automatically offset for that reported figure. The manual entry box is a last resort only.

https://help.ableton.com/hc/en-us/artic ... mpensation

it's only needed if you have an interface which is not reporting its correct latency to Live

I'm sorry for my horrible explanation. What I mean is: once I adjust my error compensation to the right time (let's say 13ms) and close Live, when I relaunch Live, I have to make up for the latency again. Previously in Live 9, once I adjusted my error compensation that was it, I never had to touch it again. In Live 10, I constantly have to readjust the error driver comp.

We actually got that, I think. But is this because the setting is not, say 18 ms, again — and if not what is it? — or is it that your needs have changed to something else, like 25ms in the later session? The latter is what happened to me when I needed to use with two different TR-8s in different sessions. The distinction is important as the causes likely are different. A preference issue vs an underlying technology issue.

[Jazzy Lazz]

We actually got that, I think. But is this because the setting is not, say 18 ms, again — and if not what is it? — or is it that your needs have changed to something else, like 25ms in the later session? The latter is what happened to me when I needed to use with two different TR-8s in different sessions. The distinction is important as the causes likely are different. A preference issue vs an underlying technology issue.

My needs have not changed at all. I''m just trying to get everything in time as much as possible (in regards to recording).

I have a Focusrite 2i4 if that makes any difference. I'm just trying to figure out why I have to constantly readjust the driver error. Does my interface constantly keep reporting back the wrong latency (which it reports to ~20.3ms)?

[fishmonkey]

how are you working out what value to adjust the DEC setting to? are you using the recommended method, or simply tweaking it by trial and error?

[Jazzy Lazz]

how are you working out what value to adjust the DEC setting to? are you using the recommended method, or simply tweaking it by trial and error?

The recommended method I have to repeat this process every time I launch Live.

[fishmonkey]

how are you working out what value to adjust the DEC setting to? are you using the recommended method, or simply tweaking it by trial and error?

The recommended method I have to repeat this process every time I launch Live.

are you saying that every time you launch Live 10 you are recording a loopback impulse in a blank set to determine the round trip latency???

[Jazzy Lazz]

how are you working out what value to adjust the DEC setting to? are you using the recommended method, or simply tweaking it by trial and error?

The recommended method I have to repeat this process every time I launch Live.

are you saying that every time you launch Live 10 you are recording a loopback impulse in a blank set to determine the round trip latency???

If I use my sampler or compressor—yes.

[scheffkoch]

...what’s the reason you listen through your interface (= direct monitoring)...just listen through ableton and everything will be fine...

[[jur]]

In any case, this is clearly not right. This setting is not supposed to change by itself.
Are you switching between different sound cards?