New iMac or Wait?? Apple vs. Intel [Solved]

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Re: New iMac or Wait?? Apple vs. Intel

Post by H20nly » Tue Mar 15, 2022 5:46 pm

Did you create your account just for this?

All 2 posts of your brand new account coming to correct the injustices of the term “hand job” buried deep in a long thread :roll:

If your intention was to make sure it didn’t go unnoticed, you’re doing a great job. Maybe you should quote it a few more times to ensure it comes up in search results… for posterity :idea:
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Re: New iMac or Wait?? Apple vs. Intel

Post by [erm] » Tue Mar 15, 2022 7:34 pm

The forums probably aren’t the best place to discuss hand jobs regardless.
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Re: New iMac or Wait?? Apple vs. Intel

Post by H20nly » Tue Mar 15, 2022 8:10 pm

Yep. Agreed. Was discussing overpriced hardware. An analogy was used… regarding how the inanimate conglomerate of metals and plastics falls short on value for such a large sum of money.

If it was directed at an a actual human being, rather than an object with no gender, emotions, or knowledge of self, I could see how that could possibly offend that person.

The fact that it has been turned into gender based objectification and pointed at one gender in particular by drksmrks is shameful. How utterly misogynistic :!:
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Re: New iMac or Wait?? Apple vs. Intel

Post by H20nly » Tue Mar 15, 2022 8:13 pm

Anyway…

The RME just arrived 8)
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Re: New iMac or Wait?? Apple vs. Intel

Post by Mark Williams » Tue Mar 15, 2022 8:33 pm

Didnt take too long, just a week or so in between Beta testing some Air stuff.
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Re: New iMac or Wait?? Apple vs. Intel

Post by drksmrks » Wed Mar 16, 2022 12:32 am

[erm] wrote:
Tue Mar 15, 2022 7:34 pm
The forums probably aren’t the best place to discuss hand jobs regardless.
As a moderator,can you please have H2oly edit and remove those two words from his post?

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Re: New iMac or Wait?? Apple vs. Intel

Post by [erm] » Wed Mar 16, 2022 1:04 am

Oh ffs. It’s an act that can be performed by and for members of either sex (however you define it personally), so it’s not violating the forum conduct rules as being descriminatory. However, like I said before, the Live forums arent the place to discuss sex acts of any kind.

H2Only please don’t use that phrase again. Drksmrks relax a little and don’t use something like this as your introduction to our little community.

Now everyone drop it or we’ll lock the thread and start handing out warnings. Seriously, let it go and save the snarky replies, I don’t have the patience to baby sit you all tonight. The ban hammer is out, you have all been warned. :evil:
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Re: New iMac or Wait?? Apple vs. Intel

Post by Pitch Black » Wed Mar 16, 2022 1:47 am

Soooo…. How are you liking the RME? 😗🎶
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Re: New iMac or Wait?? Apple vs. Intel

Post by H20nly » Wed Mar 16, 2022 3:57 am

It took more than one pass to get it installed… but after that it dropped in like a champ.

I’ve used it for play back and, of course, it’s doing fine. I have some vocals that were place holders to re-record, so after that I’ll be able to get a better sense.

Having said that, the unit in and of itself is impressive. I love that it’s a chunk of aluminum and that it comes with the cables to work, just work. The carrying case is a nice touch. I’m working on getting total mix sorted out but….

I have this old track with a funky/groovy bass line I’m trying to clean up… I wish I was better with the iZotope RX interface. I’ll be doing some heavy YouTube watching over the next few days. If you have any recommendations on tutorials, please share.

So far so good though… I re-cabled and used XLR cables of specific lengths to tidy up and lock down the signal chain. I ordered a Samson headphone amp and an extra set of cans (Beyerdynamics DT 770 Pro X), so once the Mac Studio arrives, and I get past the AU conversion, I should be in audio bliss 8)
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Re: New iMac or Wait?? Apple vs. Intel

Post by Pitch Black » Wed Mar 16, 2022 5:07 am

Dunno much about RX, sorry. The bits I have I got as part of a package deal, I haven’t used it much at all.

Glad you’re liking the RME, I’ve been eyeing it to augment my Fireface, like Machines has, but the Max was the big purchase for the year and I can’t quite justify it.
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Re: New iMac or Wait?? Apple vs. Intel

Post by H20nly » Wed Mar 16, 2022 7:05 am

I’ve heard your music. I totally get why you wouldn’t use RX… unless you used RX. You sneaky devil

I’m super stoked to try recording a new bass line and/or vocals with the RME. That (vocals) will likely happen soon on the two short verses I have to redo. If anything it will make me tighten them up faster - motivation!
My own vocals are, by far, the hardest thing for me to mix. Switching to a dynamic mic (Shure SM7B) and adding a quality pre- amp was so huge; in terms of dropping them off and ready to mix goes. I’m hoping this interface gets me closer to the curb… More soon on that…

I feel you on the purchases… But, if this is my once in a decade thrust forward , I can live with it. I’m realizing that wise purchases go farther, even if they sting at first. I spent way more over the years nickel and diming through the signal chain.
My biggest anxiety comes from the leap of faith I took buying a gen 1 product. Mac Studio has no history; fingers crossed and hoping I can make some with it
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Re: New iMac or Wait?? Apple vs. Intel

Post by Pitch Black » Wed Mar 16, 2022 7:16 am

H20nly wrote:
Wed Mar 16, 2022 7:05 am
I’m realizing that wise purchases go farther, even if they sting at first.
AKA:
“Long after the price is forgotten, the shittyness lingers on.” :lol:

I feel you on the once in a decade purchase, the same for me with the MBP. Hopefully Apple have it together with their experience of making iPhone chips, and touch wood they’ve learned from the odd debacle like displays delaminating and GPU death etc etc. I was using a 2010 MBP until 3 years ago, and it was fine for my needs up till then.
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Re: New iMac or Wait?? Apple vs. Intel

Post by Machinesworking » Wed Mar 16, 2022 8:44 am

Honestly their hardware is great these days, the chips do the Job. I have no complaints with the Air hardware wise. It's their software that needs a kick in the rear! Too many loose ends, plus bugs. I just got back from the relatives house, brought a bare minimum set up that included two USB3 SSD enclosures, and they will not mount with USB3 to USB-C cords. They mount just fine hooked up to a TB OWC dock with USB3 ports, but not directly. Looking online this isn't a hardware issue, people rolling back to Catalina are able to get their drives mounted on the same hardware.

Updated to the latest version (12.3) last night in hopes there was a fix, Apple changed the permissions to the framework folders and also got rid of native python in the macOS. This means that the Raven software crashes on start, since it now needs an update to circumvent these two things. Probably people using python scripts with Ableton should think about not updating either considering they will not work.

Just to top of this sordid tale on the way back I find an 8 part podcast I want to listen to while hours on the road. Apple Podcasts always wants to play episodes in reverse order, if you play the first episode it defaults to playing the last episode. Pull over find out the workaround is to set up a playlist, then you can default playback to oldest first etc. Well, that does not work, at least not on my iPhone 12.

Anyway, yeah somebody needs to either listen to QA, or start smacking QA around until they catch this stuff at that fruit company! :x

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Re: New iMac or Wait?? Apple vs. Intel

Post by H20nly » Wed Mar 16, 2022 1:58 pm

Machinesworking wrote:
Wed Mar 16, 2022 8:44 am
Apple Podcasts always wants to play episodes in reverse order, if you play the first episode it defaults to playing the last episode. Pull over find out the workaround is to set up a playlist, then you can default playback to oldest first etc. Well, that does not work
I know that pain. I drove from California to Massachusetts and back… 6555 miles round trip. I found out about the Podcast play order the hard way and it pissed me off. I had to queue up a few every fuel/rest stop and/or try and sort it while driving. I was listening to The Dollop and just wanted to hear them in order ffs :x
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Re: New iMac or Wait?? Apple vs. Intel

Post by H20nly » Wed Mar 16, 2022 5:15 pm

@MW - or anyone else that has one… I have a couple of Babyface questions based on my limited observations…

I only had it a couple of hours to play with it after work (it arrived a lunch time). I started to RTFM but got sidetracked with drivers, firmware, and later using it.

Last night when I put my iMac to sleep, the RME stayed on. Is this normal, or is there a button combo and/or a setting in TotalMix to power it down?
I ended up unplugging it

It didn’t get hot, but it was definitely on the higher end of warm to the touch - more than expected. Is this pretty standard for the unit?

Does the red light from the optical input always stay on, or is that something that will turn off as I get TotalMix setup for my workflow (without optical inputs)?
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