Ableton DJs, please pack your bags and go home

sonorous3 · Post by **sonorous3** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 11:40 pm

OK so I dont mean all obviously. But this has been bothering me most lately is the wave of the Ableton DJ who thinks once he/she has got beatmatching/warping down they are a DJ to be of the future.

Guys, beatmatching is not even half of what DJing is about...congrats if you find out how to warp a track after your 2 month learning curve. However, DJing is about your tracks selection, the order you put it in, the flow, the moods you create with it- one that makes makes musical sense...and for God's sake please do it all harmonically!

just a rant.

p.s. dont bother playing around pushing buttons and truning knobs on your controller when your not actually doing anything...alot of us do know the tracks and when you do that stuff you only make yourself look like a fool

john gordon · Post by **john gordon** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 11:48 pm

computo · Post by **computo** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 11:52 pm

Dj's look like fools anyways. doesnt really matter what they're standing behind.

Anyone who thinks they can just learn some simple techniques, and then get away with rocking other peoples music, is spent.

The definition of a real artist is one who knows HOW to play turntables, but doesnt.

argue with THAT!

(btw, that was a joke about saxophones, until the turntable became the sax of the 21st century)

hacktheplanet · Post by **hacktheplanet** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 12:09 am

sonorous3 wrote:OK so I dont mean all obviously. But this has been bothering me most lately is the wave of the Ableton DJ who thinks once he/she has got beatmatching/warping down they are a DJ to be of the future.

Guys, beatmatching is not even half of what DJing is about...congrats if you find out how to warp a track after your 2 month learning curve. However, DJing is about your tracks selection, the order you put it in, the flow, the moods you create with it- one that makes makes musical sense...and for God's sake please do it all harmonically!

just a rant.

p.s. dont bother playing around pushing buttons and truning knobs on your controller when your not actually doing anything...alot of us do know the tracks and when you do that stuff you only make yourself look like a fool

This entire post contradicts the idea it is trying to convey.

Good work!

Moody · Post by **Moody** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 12:10 am

I have been into Live since 3 rolled out and I still don't know how to warp tracks.

the dark wizard · Post by **the dark wizard** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 12:12 am

im an ableton user but ableton dj sets are shite.....hate going to a club and seeing someones face glow up as they glair into their laptop

most people i have experienced that think ableton djing is the way forward (they hope) have never been good on a set of dex or even had dex! They think this is a way round it.

prob get a few serious djs comin back and sayin they can rock the dex which is fair enough but MOST people i know are fakes

the dark wizard · Post by **the dark wizard** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 12:16 am

computo wrote:Dj's look like fools anyways. doesnt really matter what they're standing behind.

Anyone who thinks they can just learn some simple techniques, and then get away with rocking other peoples music, is spent.

The definition of a real artist is one who knows HOW to play turntables, but doesnt.

argue with THAT!

(btw, that was a joke about saxophones, until the turntable became the sax of the 21st century)

i feel sorry for you, all djs are fools?........so youve never been to a club and enjoyed a dj rippin it up..........sad wee man

computo · Post by **computo** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 12:21 am

yeah, I enjoyed the prerecorded music they spun, if thats what you're asking.

DeadlyKungFu · Post by **DeadlyKungFu** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 12:26 am

the_planet wrote:
sonorous3 wrote:OK so I dont mean all...
........blah blah blah........just a rant.
This entire post contradicts the idea it is trying to convey.
Good work!

some jokes write themselves, thank you planet.

the dark wizard · Post by **the dark wizard** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 12:26 am

computo wrote:yeah, I enjoyed the prerecorded music they spun, if thats what you're asking.

thats not what i was askin

are you old and past it.......done it all have you

computo · Post by **computo** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 12:36 am

trust me, Ive done a lot. Craze is a great turntablist...Ive seen many good performers...actually I play turntables, but not very often.

I found beat matching to be quite simple, though Im a drummer, and I learned on Progressive House (Not to hard)

But in general, I have little interest in seeing Dj's...

sonorous3 · Post by **sonorous3** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 12:37 am

the dark wizard wrote:im an ableton user but ableton dj sets are shite.....hate going to a club and seeing someones face glow up as they glair into their laptop

most people i have experienced that think ableton djing is the way forward (they hope) have never been good on a set of dex or even had dex! They think this is a way round it.

prob get a few serious djs comin back and sayin they can rock the dex which is fair enough but MOST people i know are fakes

right...but spinning two records over and over and mixing back and forth is boring :O ... being able to put in your loops at any given time, re edit on the fly, make loops on the fly, mix tracks that are impossible to do with turntables is what ableton offers...the future it is not..because present it be

the dark wizard · Post by **the dark wizard** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 12:40 am

sonorous3 wrote:
the dark wizard wrote:im an ableton user but ableton dj sets are shite.....hate going to a club and seeing someones face glow up as they glair into their laptop

most people i have experienced that think ableton djing is the way forward (they hope) have never been good on a set of dex or even had dex! They think this is a way round it.

prob get a few serious djs comin back and sayin they can rock the dex which is fair enough but MOST people i know are fakes
right...but spinning two records over and over and mixing back and forth is boring :O ... being able to put in your loops at any given time, re edit on the fly, make loops on the fly, mix tracks that are impossible to do with turntables is what ableton offers...the future it is not..because present it be

cdjs can do all that you mentiod

sonorous3 · Post by **sonorous3** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 12:45 am

the dark wizard wrote:
sonorous3 wrote:
the dark wizard wrote:im an ableton user but ableton dj sets are shite.....hate going to a club and seeing someones face glow up as they glair into their laptop

most people i have experienced that think ableton djing is the way forward (they hope) have never been good on a set of dex or even had dex! They think this is a way round it.

prob get a few serious djs comin back and sayin they can rock the dex which is fair enough but MOST people i know are fakes
right...but spinning two records over and over and mixing back and forth is boring :O ... being able to put in your loops at any given time, re edit on the fly, make loops on the fly, mix tracks that are impossible to do with turntables is what ableton offers...the future it is not..because present it be
cdjs can do all that you mentiod

yes, with less interaction +2000 bucks

the dark wizard · Post by **the dark wizard** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 12:47 am

sonorous3 wrote:
the dark wizard wrote:
sonorous3 wrote: right...but spinning two records over and over and mixing back and forth is boring :O ... being able to put in your loops at any given time, re edit on the fly, make loops on the fly, mix tracks that are impossible to do with turntables is what ableton offers...the future it is not..because present it be
cdjs can do all that you mentiod
yes, with less interaction +2000 bucks

more skill, worth every penny

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