Ableton abandoning the G5 ?

radeon · Post by **radeon** » Fri Nov 25, 2005 10:10 am

psi wrote:whatever : this is an important issue shame its not long before the cream pies start being slapped into other's faces..

if you read what I say in my proper post i have proper points. One or two words of mine were picked on because what I say is more probably true but no one comments on that

radeon · Post by **radeon** » Fri Nov 25, 2005 10:12 am

hoffman2k wrote:I've seen many mac threads deteriorate in many various ways....

But this one is cracking me up...

"Live doesnt do anything another software wont"

I see no reason to laugh at me

tell me one thing live can do that other software cannot. Keep in your mind I talk about the end result not the method. Prove me wrong

hoffman2k · Post by **hoffman2k** » Fri Nov 25, 2005 10:24 am

radeon wrote:
hoffman2k wrote:I've seen many mac threads deteriorate in many various ways....

But this one is cracking me up...

"Live doesnt do anything another software wont"
I see no reason to laugh at me

tell me one thing live can do that other software cannot. Keep in your mind I talk about the end result not the method. Prove me wrong

The end result, not the method?
I guess you can compare every piece of audio software to a couple of pots to bang on and a tape recorder.....
The end result is that you will get sound.

What the hell do you even mean by end result?
Off course it's the method that count's. It's called LIVE.
All DAW's can be used to make music in. But they all handle it in a different way.

noisetonepause · Post by **noisetonepause** » Fri Nov 25, 2005 12:39 pm

radeon wrote:tell me one thing live can do that other software cannot. Keep in your mind I talk about the end result not the method. Prove me wrong

And you're telling me you can get the same end result regardless of the method? I know I can't.

Also, my Dad is stronger than your Dad.

Angstrom · Post by **Angstrom** » Fri Nov 25, 2005 1:10 pm

noisetonepause wrote: Also, my Dad is stronger than your Dad.

tensile strength or compressive strength?

Mike Goodwin · Post by **Mike Goodwin** » Fri Nov 25, 2005 1:54 pm

my mom can kick both of your dads butts

Angstrom · Post by **Angstrom** » Fri Nov 25, 2005 2:18 pm

for a small fee

supster · Post by **supster** » Fri Nov 25, 2005 4:59 pm

Angstrom wrote:for a small fee

whatever anstrom is charging my little sister will do it for 10% off angstroms rate. PM me.
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dpel · Post by **dpel** » Fri Nov 25, 2005 6:05 pm

just an observation:

everytime i see an ableton press video or demo clip i always see Robert and/or Gerhard etc. using a powerbook. i doubt ableton will abandon apple.
both companies will mutually evolve and benefit one another to some degree.

(such as the case for the last 7-8 years or whatever)

radeon · Post by **radeon** » Sun Nov 27, 2005 12:22 pm

hoffman2k wrote:
radeon wrote:
hoffman2k wrote:I've seen many mac threads deteriorate in many various ways....

But this one is cracking me up...

"Live doesnt do anything another software wont"
I see no reason to laugh at me

tell me one thing live can do that other software cannot. Keep in your mind I talk about the end result not the method. Prove me wrong
The end result, not the method?
I guess you can compare every piece of audio software to a couple of pots to bang on and a tape recorder.....
The end result is that you will get sound.

What the hell do you even mean by end result?
Off course it's the method that count's. It's called LIVE.
All DAW's can be used to make music in. But they all handle it in a different way.

You just answer the question but can not see it

I know we are not native english but even I understand you wrote the answer then asked the question

Still not one person has said I can do this ion live you cant do that in other sofwares

I am 100% correct see

radeon · Post by **radeon** » Sun Nov 27, 2005 12:23 pm

noisetonepause wrote:

Also, my Dad is stronger than your Dad.

My dad is richer

hoffman2k · Post by **hoffman2k** » Sun Nov 27, 2005 1:07 pm

radeon wrote:
hoffman2k wrote:
radeon wrote: I see no reason to laugh at me

tell me one thing live can do that other software cannot. Keep in your mind I talk about the end result not the method. Prove me wrong
The end result, not the method?
I guess you can compare every piece of audio software to a couple of pots to bang on and a tape recorder.....
The end result is that you will get sound.

What the hell do you even mean by end result?
Off course it's the method that count's. It's called LIVE.
All DAW's can be used to make music in. But they all handle it in a different way.
You just answer the question but can not see it
I know we are not native english but even I understand you wrote the answer then asked the question

Still not one person has said I can do this ion live you cant do that in other sofwares I am 100% correct see

There are dozens of things you can do in Live that other DAW's cant. Follow actions and all the tricks you can pull of with it comes to mind as one example.
But with end result i think you mean a song.
You can make a song on a playstation

And that was your initial question as i understand it.

The problem is not that somebody can't point out the uniqueness of Live to you.
The problem is that you can't understand it.
So no point in trying to argue with me.

Show me one DAW that has something even remotely close to Live clips

radeon · Post by **radeon** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 12:19 pm

Let me think about it and get back to you

LOFA · Post by **LOFA** » Wed Nov 30, 2005 6:52 pm

Johnisfaster wrote:when us mac guys get intelbooks it'll be a non issue??????

dude the computers we are using are very capable but ableton seems to not care that their program runs sluggish at best. so the fix is to buy a new computer? fu** that we have good equipment and we bought "good" software that should work top notch all the time. I don't know about you but I don't have 2 grand laying around to buy a new laptop just so i can get ableton to run faster when it should already be working like a horse. I've only had this g4 for like 6months now I'm not buying a new computer for several years at least.

I have had my dual G5 now for a year and a half. I have also had the same two grand put aside waiting for a competitive powerbook, for about as long.

I have since lost my patience with my own impatience.

If there is ever a preformance increase for g5's I will be IMPRESSED. If there isn't eventually dual processor support, I will be SHOCKED.

LOFA · Post by **LOFA** » Wed Nov 30, 2005 7:12 pm

radeon wrote: All you say is weird. If i make music with 2 blips i can use a 386 running 8mb ram. So you can "get stuff" done. I know your not running 30 audio tracks 6 virtual synth and tons of eq and compresor 3 space revrb with latency on which i can do easi in logic on a dual g5.

Dude. These are some very different reverbs. Also: Logic is not a realtime tool in by any means. You can't even bounce two f'n tracks at the same time!

By pro 7, do they mean problematic prostate protrusions upon progressively protracting prohibitive prom-music?

As far as reverbs are concerned! Reverbs are all different things all together!
While I could concievably run one hundred instances of it on my G5 at once, I doubt that my system would be happy generating massive, dynamic, real-time adjustments to several parameters.

Also, Logic is specifically built to work effectively on a G5.

hoffman2k wrote:
radeon wrote:
hoffman2k wrote:I've seen many mac threads deteriorate in many various ways....

But this one is cracking me up...

"Live doesnt do anything another software wont"
I see no reason to laugh at me

tell me one thing live can do that other software cannot. Keep in your mind I talk about the end result not the method. Prove me wrong
The end result, not the method?
I guess you can compare every piece of audio software to a couple of pots to bang on and a tape recorder.....
The end result is that you will get sound.

What the hell do you even mean by end result?
Off course it's the method that count's. It's called LIVE.
All DAW's can be used to make music in. But they all handle it in a different way.

Seriously. Let's see Logic gain a universally accepted status of "stable-Live-performance-tool"

My house is bigger than yours.