NI KORE

dave999z · Post by **dave999z** » Sat Jan 21, 2006 5:43 pm

anti-banausic wrote:But it would be a step toward something cool, like a hardware box that could be a DSP-like processor for vst software.

But, why not buy outboard hardware (compressors, synths, etc) then? We've come full circle from wanting a pure native solution.

One reason I guess is that this would be updatable hardware. Kind of like a computer, huh? I remember Steinberg was trying some crap like that, called "system link" (users called it vaporlink), which was supposed to use one lightpipe channel to link machines. Whatever.

I want all this stuff to work NATIVE on my machine. The only hardware I want is controllers and I/O. Computers and software are expensive and buggy enough, without adding a second one to the mix (and by NI? I'm sure it'll run flawlessly. Not.).

My $0.01. (Hey, I'm cheap.)

Dave

sqook · Post by **sqook** » Sat Jan 21, 2006 6:01 pm

computo wrote:yawn...

I agree. The press release was practically fodder for "buzzword bingo". My prediction is that this will cost 500-600$, and will basically be a glorified plugin shell that will have a couple handy features, the first of which being the ability to use VST's in AU hosts, and [possibly] the ability to use AU's in windows. Should the second condition be true, or if kore could load windows dll plugins into a mac VST/AU host, which I seriously doubt, then I'd be possibly willing to pay for it.

Otherwise, it's just a lot of hype with a mispelled name. I don't need a plugin to host my plugins, though.

12micsn1 · Post by **12micsn1** » Sat Jan 21, 2006 6:49 pm

i dont see the real world use in this plug-in. Someone please tell me the value of this software that could be benificial.

Tarekith · Post by **Tarekith** » Sat Jan 21, 2006 8:11 pm

It's just a way to organize and search for specific types of sounds, regardless of what the plug in generating them is, that's my guess anyway.

Anarogue · Post by **Anarogue** » Sat Jan 21, 2006 8:54 pm

By the looks of it... it looks like a cross between the Receptor and the Virus TI. Being able to run "NI" plugins on external hardware and having USB or Firewire hookup as a AU or VST.

Tarekith · Post by **Tarekith** » Sat Jan 21, 2006 9:24 pm

I don't think you can actually run the plug ins on the hardware though. My guess is that they have some sort of software "wrapper" that lets any plug in appear as VST plug in.

nobbystylus · Post by **nobbystylus** » Sat Jan 21, 2006 9:42 pm

Looks like Reason or RAX with a posh controller.... not exactly revolutionary..

Komplex · Post by **Komplex** » Sat Jan 21, 2006 10:00 pm

So am I right in saying that this is nothing like the Nord Modular? Where you can edit your patches while hooked up to the computer then take it away and use it without a computer?

sqook · Post by **sqook** » Sat Jan 21, 2006 10:17 pm

Tarekith wrote:I don't think you can actually run the plug ins on the hardware though. My guess is that they have some sort of software "wrapper" that lets any plug in appear as VST plug in.

Sure you can; that's the point of this device. Ever heard of receptor? I have a feeling this is going to be very much ilke it, only with a software interface and the ability to load both AU and VST plugs.

nuperspective · Post by **nuperspective** » Sat Jan 21, 2006 10:38 pm

if it was some sort of dsp solution, i would expect it to be bigger. just because of the need for cooling fan and psu's.

pbajzek · Post by **pbajzek** » Sat Jan 21, 2006 10:56 pm

I don't want to seem like a NI cheerleader, but if I understand this product correctly, I would find it *extremely* useful. As I read it, the point is that you can build chains of plugins and save them for recall. So I can have a Guitar Rig program running into a Filterscape patch and Deverb, and recall them together as a single Kore program.

Of course this is not very exciting for studio recording, but if it is fast enough to be used *live*, it would be awesome. Right now I could do the above with a mere 3-5 presses of a footswitch, and the audience would hardly notice me mousing around on stage. One button would load my Kore patch (or even fire it with a scene change in Live), which would be HUGE for me. If it actually works as I read it, this is something I've been wanting for quite a while, and in fact have suggested to Ableton a few times.

I think RAX is awesome, but I can't plug it into Live (unless they've released a new version I don't know about).

Tarekith · Post by **Tarekith** » Sat Jan 21, 2006 10:56 pm

I agree, the press blurb only states that it's a controller, not a host:

"Advanced performance features and the high resolution KORE controller enable you to play your instruments and effects, switch between presets and recall songs all while staying focused on your performance."

A standalone host would be very expensive, and since they seem to be gearing this towards Komplete owners, we're talking like a $3000 investment. Seems a hard sell if they are trying to revolutionize the way we all do things.

Machinate · Post by **Machinate** » Sat Jan 21, 2006 11:42 pm

pbajzek wrote:I don't want to seem like a NI cheerleader, but if I understand this product correctly, I would find it *extremely* useful. As I read it, the point is that you can build chains of plugins and save them for recall. So I can have a Guitar Rig program running into a Filterscape patch and Deverb, and recall them together as a single Kore program.

Energy XT does this already - it's a 35€ program!

dave999z · Post by **dave999z** » Sun Jan 22, 2006 12:38 am

Someone over on the Reaktor forum called it the dongle for Komplete 3.

pbajzek · Post by **pbajzek** » Sun Jan 22, 2006 3:00 am

If EnergyXT ran on a Mac, I'd buy it in an instant. But this functionality isn't enough to make me change platforms (or even enough to make me buy this NI piece, necessarily).