MacBook Pro + Existing VSTs

Groovecake · Post by **Groovecake** » Tue Feb 21, 2006 5:18 pm

Will VST instruments like the Korg Legacy and Arturia MiniMoog need to be rewritten to work on the intel Macs like Ableton does, or are these two different things?

Sorry if this is an elementary question. Thanks

hoffman2k · Post by **hoffman2k** » Tue Feb 21, 2006 5:22 pm

Plugins will need a universal binary too.
There are already some available. but most developers are still working on it.

Groovecake · Post by **Groovecake** » Tue Feb 21, 2006 6:29 pm

Dang.

Will they still work only not as well or will they not work at all?

Thanks

M

warpus · Post by **warpus** » Tue Feb 21, 2006 6:34 pm

Groovecake wrote:Dang.

Will they still work only not as well or will they not work at all?

Thanks

M

Not at all. The host application will not recognize them.

ToLTeK · Post by **ToLTeK** » Tue Feb 21, 2006 7:41 pm

warpus wrote:
Groovecake wrote:Dang.

Will they still work only not as well or will they not work at all?

Thanks

M
Not at all. The host application will not recognize them.

What..?!!! I am using Intel based iMac for the past four weeks and every single VST and VSTi that I have tried and installed (including Korg Legacy DE) works just fine. Sure that they suffer a little bit performance wise, but not dramaticaly. Can't say that about curent version of Live which loads, but is totaly unusable. Hopefully 5.2 will be released this week...

Groovecake · Post by **Groovecake** » Tue Feb 21, 2006 7:47 pm

Ah. That's good to know. Have you been using them as plugins or as stand alones?

ToLTeK · Post by **ToLTeK** » Tue Feb 21, 2006 9:19 pm

Groovecake wrote:Ah. That's good to know. Have you been using them as plugins or as stand alones?

Both...

FYI; Cubase SL3 runs OK, Reason 3 - so,so as long as you don't use "combinator" patches. As fo VSTi's - Korg Legacy, Microtonic, Vanguard, Bassline all run OK and iDrum is the first "Universal" plug for Intel Mac {AU only). Good news is that You will propably not even notice performance difference if migrated from let's say iMac G5 2GHz.

Groovecake · Post by **Groovecake** » Tue Feb 21, 2006 9:29 pm

Oh...I have a feeling I will notice a performance difference migrating from an iBook 933!!

FaX-01 · Post by **FaX-01** » Tue Feb 21, 2006 9:36 pm

ToLTeK wrote:
warpus wrote:
Groovecake wrote:Dang.

Will they still work only not as well or will they not work at all?

Thanks

M
Not at all. The host application will not recognize them.
What..?!!! I am using Intel based iMac for the past four weeks and every single VST and VSTi that I have tried and installed (including Korg Legacy DE) works just fine. Sure that they suffer a little bit performance wise, but not dramaticaly. Can't say that about curent version of Live which loads, but is totaly unusable. Hopefully 5.2 will be released this week...

You are using them under ROSETTA .
You seem to have been misinformed of your current situation.
When you get a UNIVERSAL BINARY edition of your HOST (ie:LIVE) it will need to have universal binary conversions of all your VST/VSTi to run in that host.
As it currently stands your are using a non universal binary version of Live with NON universal binary versions of your VST & VSTi.
I guarantee you when you use a Universal Binary Host all the VST&VSTi and AudiUnits need to be of universal binary conversion too run effectively.

So yes when you have a proper Univeral Binary compatible host you need to have your AU's / VST & VSTi converted to universal binary also.

Digi V · Post by **Digi V** » Wed Feb 22, 2006 1:31 am

fox- you sure? i'm going to have to look into this.

kenn michael · Post by **kenn michael** » Wed Feb 22, 2006 2:17 am

yes, fax is definitely correct on this.

AdamJay · Post by **AdamJay** » Wed Feb 22, 2006 2:32 am

FaX-01...

dropping knowledge like cinder blocks!

LOFA · Post by **LOFA** » Wed Feb 22, 2006 5:13 am

AdamJay wrote:FaX-01...

dropping knowledge like cinder blocks!

forge · Post by **forge** » Wed Feb 22, 2006 5:19 am

I have it on GOOD authority that the uni-bin "rewrite" is actually not a big deal at all hence why L5.2 is coming out so soon

so I wouldnt stress too much

ToLTeK · Post by **ToLTeK** » Wed Feb 22, 2006 10:49 am

Hey FaX-01,
You have mentioned:
"So yes when you have a proper Univeral Binary compatible host you need to have your AU's / VST & VSTi converted to universal binary also."
So if that's the case, shouldn't opposite be true i.e you can't use "Universal" VSTi's with Host running under Rosetta? The reason I'm asking is that the only Universal VSTi I know of at this stage - Crystal, performs flawlesly in Cubase running under Rosetta...