can't output to BCR2000 using usb midi driver

frenchie · Post by **frenchie** » Fri Feb 24, 2006 1:36 pm

having some problems with my new BCR2000, wondering if any other users have had similar difficulty.

I installed the latest USB midi drivers from the Behringer site, and Live receives midi from the BCR ok, but doesn't transmit anything back to it (checked the midi preferences settings in Live). Also had problems updating the firmware and sending new presets, neither Behrigner's firmware update utility nor BC-Edit can see the device. Tried sending firmware updates and new presets using midi-ox, but still no joy. The BCR was in USB mode 1, also tired USB-3 (saw a post on the forum somewhere suggesting this), still didn't work.

Then i tried putting the BCR into one of the stand alone modes and hooking it up to the PC via another midi interface. Changed midi settings in Live, now it does send parameter updates to the BCR. I could also update firmware and send new presets this way.

I guess I could just use it like this, but it seems strange that the USB driver didnt' work properly. Anyone have similar problems?

Thanks,
John

DeadlyKungFu · Post by **DeadlyKungFu** » Fri Feb 24, 2006 9:03 pm

mine works fine on Win XP Pro, except the editing software is crap.

is it powered up when you launch Live?

in the devices menu, USB[1] and USB[2] show up, you should pick USB[1] and make sure it's set to send, receive and track midi.

Dunno, maybe re-install the drivers? Did you reboot after installing the driver?

frenchie · Post by **frenchie** » Fri Feb 24, 2006 9:43 pm

Yeah, rebooted after installing driver, and its powered up when I launch live, but I don't get USB[1] and USB[2] in the device list, just BCR2000[1]. tried reinstalling the drivers, to no avail.

Are you using the behringer drivers, or the windows generic usbaudio?

(my OS is win xp home)

DeadlyKungFu · Post by **DeadlyKungFu** » Fri Feb 24, 2006 11:21 pm

I grabbed the drivers from the site.

Maybe your USB port isn't the right kind, maybe it needs USB 2.0? Dunno, I'm still stuck at work and can't check my settings.

ben_blue · Post by **ben_blue** » Sat Feb 25, 2006 5:25 pm

i never installed drivers. everything worked perfect from day 1.
make sure you are in the right operating mode on the bcr, (u1,u2,u3, etc) and maybe just reset the whole thing to factory defaults.

frenchie · Post by **frenchie** » Sat Feb 25, 2006 6:42 pm

I'm using usb 2.0. tried switching to another usb port on my machine, still no joy. going to try it out on a friends computer to try to work out if it's a problem with the PC or the bcr2000

(thanks for helping out by the way, i'm pretty stumped!)

ben_blue · Post by **ben_blue** » Mon Feb 27, 2006 6:51 am

i tried what u did today. id love to haev the devices show up in XP as BCR2000 instead of USB AUDIO DEVICE, thats why i tried it.

i had the same results you did...so u need to rollback the driver.

in windows, go to SYSTEM, DEVICE MANAGER, SOUND VIDEO GAME CONTROLLERS, and see the BCR. double click it, go to driver tab, and click rollback driver. restart, and your device will show up in your apps again.

bb

frenchie · Post by **frenchie** » Mon Feb 27, 2006 9:25 pm

Good tip, didn't work out for me unfortunately. I can't get back to the generic usb driver, it says "no driver files have been backed up for this device" when i try to roll back the driver. I tried uninstalling and reinstalling on a different usb port, in the hopes of getting the USBAUDIO device, but it's not happening, it recognises the device as a BCR2000 now, and insists on installing the driver for it, otherwise it won't work, reporting "this device is not configured correctly" in the device manager.

pretty stumped, any more suggestions would be greatly appreciated!

thanks,
john.

frenchie · Post by **frenchie** » Wed Mar 01, 2006 1:55 pm

Ok, managed to extract myself from the tangled mess of midi confusion I found myself in, got the BCR running mackie emulation in stand alone mode using another midi interface on the machine. the refusal of the usb midi driver to send output will forever remain a mystery!
thanks for the tips

ben_blue · Post by **ben_blue** » Wed Mar 01, 2006 5:42 pm

also

try going todevice manager, right clicking the BCR, and uninstalling.
unplug usb connection, then reboot, and plug in via usb.
u should get the normal native windows driver popups at that point.

but u still also want to solve this, becuase if it works, we will see the name of the device in our preferences instead of "usb audio device..."

i have a bcr, bcr, uc33, uc17...so it gets hairy with that many "usb audio devices" !!!

bb

Marquis · Post by **Marquis** » Mon Jul 03, 2006 10:53 am

really glad to see other people having this problem. I was tearing my hair out.,

I bought a bcr2000 second hand (almost new) from ebay. plugged her in, she worked fine without updating the drivers.

Then I installed driver 1.1.1.1 whihc was on a disk the seller had included. Instant problems. Win XP home can see the bcr device. But Ableton, the Behringer B-Control editor can't, the B-control firmware update can't. Twiddling a knob shows no singla in Live either.

I thought I'd been sold a dud.

Then in a panic, I did a windows xp home device manager Update Driver, and let windows search for the driver itself. It of course installs the generic device, USB Audio Device 1, 2 and 3. The B-control firmware upgrader can now see the device.

I then updated the firmware to 1.10 (which it already was on). Noi problems there either.

Still can't get the Behringer editor to see the device though (as it requires diver 1.1.1.0 or higher to do that).

My verdict - the driver doesn't work. This is NOT acceptable. I have UC33-e, an Evolution 249c keyboard, and FBB1010 and a Trigger Finger, and I need these all hooked up and fucntioning and clearly visible in the settings.

Anyone got any solutions to this? Know any other forums to check?