time-stretch BYPASS for indiv tracks.

monolake · Post by **monolake** » Sat May 18, 2002 7:24 pm

ooops, the last post was not from High Tom, it was me...

rob.

High Tom · Post by **High Tom** » Sun May 19, 2002 6:52 pm

High Tom wrote: Hello High Tom,
the good news: we are working on it ( Yon mostly to be precise ) and other related stuff. the bad news : it is more complicted then it seems to be. Now the waveform display in the arranger does not change if you change the tempo. If some of the samples are _not streched then their waveform views have to be recalculated every time you change the tempo. This is only one example of little details which keep us busy every day and make some of the very obvious things on the whishlist a difficult and unfortunately time consuming job....

robert / ableton

You don't have to recalculate the sample view, just let the warp markers move along the sample view if the tempo changes.

Regards,
Buddycasino

FORMAT · Post by **FORMAT** » Fri May 24, 2002 11:41 am

I appreaciate very much how Ableton are responding to user requests and implementing those features.... Keep up the good work!

FORMAT

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Thu May 30, 2002 12:57 pm

Next update seems expensive ...

How about making this feature as a VST plug-in?
Please correct me if I'm saying something wrong here

FORMAT · Post by **FORMAT** » Thu May 30, 2002 1:44 pm

I'm strongly in favour of VSTi implementation......

Gerhard · Post by **Gerhard** » Fri Jun 07, 2002 9:53 am

Folks,

you know I'm reluctant to confirming if and when features will be implemented, but on this one I can say:

Our next 'big' release will

- allow you to turn off time stretching for individual clips (via a switch in the Clip view);

- provide more options for stretching so as to reduce the artefacts (or introduce interesting new kinds of artefacts where desired).

Hope you'll like it!

Gerhard
ableton

submodern · Post by **submodern** » Fri Jun 07, 2002 6:14 pm

excellent! can't wait!

thanks ableton!

High Tom · Post by **High Tom** » Sat Aug 03, 2002 11:51 pm

Hi to the Ableton people and thanks for implementing the solution we all want.

I'll post some more ideas when i've got time (and hopefully take less than 3 months to reply).

atom_b · Post by **atom_b** » Mon Aug 12, 2002 8:36 pm

Gerhard wrote: - allow you to turn off time stretching for individual clips (via a switch in the Clip view);

- provide more options for stretching so as to reduce the artefacts (or introduce interesting new kinds of artefacts where desired).

To hear the first makes me a happy man, the latter makes me wonder if I will loose some of the artefacts and repeats on wich lot of my rhythmic clips are based currently (via warping and playing around with transients). If you can confirm that I will NOT loose this 'feature' you'd make me even happier.

Gerhard · Post by **Gerhard** » Mon Aug 12, 2002 9:43 pm

Of course, we will leave the current state as one option -- if only for the reason of compatibilty (you don't want an old Set to sound different just because it's a new software version).

Gerhard
ableton

jev · Post by **jev** » Sat Aug 24, 2002 9:33 am

Anyone familiar with the Yamaha SU700??
They have the option to 'stretch', like in Live, or to 'change pitch', wich obviously changes the pitch when changing the tempo.So loops stay in sync. This option works really great. An idea??

Greets,

J.

nozza1 · Post by **nozza1** » Thu Aug 29, 2002 12:04 pm

Great to hear from Gerhard about the promised new feature. But can I plead to include the ability to leave clips un-warped and unaltered also to be an option when you preview a clip from the browser. I want to here how the original sample sounds before I mess with it

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Thu Sep 05, 2002 7:23 pm

Anonymous wrote:Even better would be a "launchpad" ... a separate area where you can place one-shot samples in some sort of grid-structure. This would then be independent from the scene structure ... I hope I'm making myself clear here

MoYo

yep, wuold be nice.
I havn;t bought Live yet, but am close. The ability to have it able to trigger non timestreched and non-timestretched samples is a big deal (almost critical)
A launch pad would be nice, though it looks like it would mess up the GUI without much usability gain. Though I wonder how often you forget which key you assigned to what sound....

paul_sebastien · Post by **paul_sebastien** » Sat Sep 07, 2002 12:20 am

I won't belabor the points made by others again but YES, this is the #1 missing feature that forces me to STILL use Acid on a PC for a lot of work rather than Live on my Mac, whereas I could ditch Acid altogether if I had this one missing feature. Clearly many other users are in the same boat.

So, in light of the time urgency/importance of this feature, and the complexity involved with addressing it (per Yon's comments), how about the idea that another user suggested, having a 'one-off' area or 'separate' little window where one could trigger un-stretched, direct-from-disk-without-processing tracks....would this be more feasible? I just want to be able to trigger a long pre-mixed song file and then use the regular Live tracks to play along with it (and vice-versa); I don't need the same level of processing and features on the imported one-off stereo mixed track. One of the great things that Acid does so well is let you import a long, beat-mapped song, and then add other time-locked loops and bits over it, soooo easily.

Again, once Live has this feature, I can actually sell my PC and ditch Acid and just use Live. Life will be wonderful.

PS

FrankH · Post by **FrankH** » Sat Sep 07, 2002 11:16 am

Gerhard wrote:...
- allow you to turn off time stretching for individual clips (via a switch in the Clip view);

- provide more options for stretching so as to reduce the artefacts (or introduce interesting new kinds of artefacts where desired).
...

That's splendid

Peace,

f

time-stretch BYPASS for indiv tracks.

Tempo / Warping

Tempo / Warping

Tempo / Warping

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Pitch Shifting and Stretching

re: turning off time stretching...

Splendid