Fix Live 5 before even thinking about Live 6, dudes.

djsynchro · Post by **djsynchro** » Fri Feb 24, 2006 10:34 am

Frank Hoffmann wrote:I would prefer the plug-in not to publish a useless parameter.

Definitely.

But there are 2 VSTs I can't use right now because they mess up undo.
They were both made with synthedit and they both sound amazing, and I'd really like to have them as part of my sonic palette.

Being able to ignore certain VST parameters would be very handy.
Will post as feature request.

Frank Hoffmann · Post by **Frank Hoffmann** » Sun Feb 26, 2006 12:27 pm

djsynchro,

which plug-ins are you talking about? Please send me a link to them.

Frank

P.S: Still wondering why you guys don't contact the plug-in developers to fix the problem.

kleine · Post by **kleine** » Sun Feb 26, 2006 1:35 pm

andrewj wrote:Okay, thanks for your support, but I tried it in session view and arrangement view, and I also tried it most often in overdub mode, like you do! It always crashed!

Nice to see, that it works for you, but does not work here!

Just switches to a newer version of OS X perhaps now it will work! Will see.

Hello,

You might contact me at [email protected] and send me the Log.txt and Crashlog.

Best,
Christian
[email protected]

djsynchro · Post by **djsynchro** » Sun Feb 26, 2006 4:32 pm

http://glenstegner.com/Arppe2600va.zip

LED blinks and sends a VST parameter

http://www.jackdark.net/GLITCHGIRLNEO.ZIP decorative graphics elements send VST parameters.

They both make really cool unique sounds but I don't use them because having undo is essential.

Cheers.

WaveRider · Post by **WaveRider** » Mon Feb 27, 2006 4:33 pm

djsynchro wrote:http://glenstegner.com/Arppe2600va.zip

LED blinks and sends a VST parameter

http://www.jackdark.net/GLITCHGIRLNEO.ZIP decorative graphics elements send VST parameters.

They both make really cool unique sounds but I don't use them because having undo is essential.

Cheers.

This is a common problem occurring in hundreds of vst. I am asking for a cure that will fix that problem for all vsts... if you fix it for arppe2600, the same fix should be applicable to all others that show this behaviour. It is the very same problem, but won't happen on the same param number.

You will have to deal with it I am sure, cause it is crippling your software.

WaveRider · Post by **WaveRider** » Mon Feb 27, 2006 4:40 pm

Frank Hoffmann wrote: P.S: Still wondering why you guys don't contact the plug-in developers to fix the problem.

I use at least 50 plugs that show this problem, and new ones are being made all the time. Fixing it on your part is the only logical solution, it is a problem that occurs in your host only because of your design choices. Someday you will have to realize you have to act on it, asking us to lobby for changes in hundreds of vst show how deconnected you are.

andrewj · Post by **andrewj** » Mon Feb 27, 2006 11:03 pm

kleine wrote:
andrewj wrote:Okay, thanks for your support, but I tried it in session view and arrangement view, and I also tried it most often in overdub mode, like you do! It always crashed!

Nice to see, that it works for you, but does not work here!

Just switches to a newer version of OS X perhaps now it will work! Will see.
Hello,

You might contact me at [email protected] and send me the Log.txt and Crashlog.

Best,
Christian
[email protected]

Sorry Christian,

but last time I send these files because of another problem i just got the reply that the crashes do not come from ableton live. This does not help. I hope of a working system so badly. I am sure you want to help and hope that my problems will be away very soon, but this does not change the general problem here: Live has trouble with different pluggies on different systems. Do you think that this software is stable and ready enough for a main upgrade tha we all have to pay?

leisuremuffin · Post by **leisuremuffin** » Tue Feb 28, 2006 12:35 am

what are they supposed to fix if the problem is the plug in?

Every pay plug in i own works with live. I've had some problems with freebies, but hey, that's the nature of the beast.

.lm.

andrewj · Post by **andrewj** » Tue Feb 28, 2006 10:26 am

leisuremuffin wrote:what are they supposed to fix if the problem is the plug in?

Every pay plug in i own works with live. I've had some problems with freebies, but hey, that's the nature of the beast.

.lm.

sorry, but my problem occurs with sonic synth and minimonsta. both are not free! and both seem to work with other apps! perhaps it is just my system here, but there are also troubles with other plugins that were not free!

supster · Post by **supster** » Tue Feb 28, 2006 11:58 am

leisuremuffin wrote:what are they supposed to fix if the problem is the plug in?

Every pay plug in i own works with live. I've had some problems with freebies, but hey, that's the nature of the beast.

they're sending you checks. that has to be it. how much? and if its enough hell i'll be a cheerleader too

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hoffman2k · Post by **hoffman2k** » Tue Feb 28, 2006 12:09 pm

supster wrote:
leisuremuffin wrote:what are they supposed to fix if the problem is the plug in?

Every pay plug in i own works with live. I've had some problems with freebies, but hey, that's the nature of the beast.

they're sending you checks. that has to be it. how much? and if its enough hell i'll be a cheerleader too

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People get payed to cheer?
Hell, where do i sign up?

Give me an A.......

supster · Post by **supster** » Tue Feb 28, 2006 12:11 pm

Frank Hoffmann wrote:P.S: Still wondering why you guys don't contact the plug-in developers to fix the problem.

yes we always have that option to contact third party developers so thier stuff will work with your program

but this is assuming that all the thousands of people that buy your product are internet savvy and/or technical and/or have the time and are willing to go out of thier way to do that

i think thats a very poor assumption, many, many people are not and are going to blame you because "it just doest work right".

then (on top of it) when they do the same exact 'whatever it is' in another host, and it does work, your reputation takes a nose dive.

this is the way people think. they just want it to work without bending over backwards for things they hold you responisible for. maybe not totally fair in every case, but true.

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leisuremuffin · Post by **leisuremuffin** » Tue Feb 28, 2006 4:38 pm

nope, they don't send me checks, i'm just thowing my opinions and experiences in there, just like you do.

I want to see live 6 and live 5 works for me as a vst/au host. Sometimes i feel like i must have a different piece of software installed on my computer than a lot of you cats.

.lm.

oh, and supster, something you do has been bothering me for a while. Please learn how to spell words like "their" and "weird". i before e is not a hard and fast rule y'know.

supster · Post by **supster** » Tue Feb 28, 2006 5:24 pm

leisuremuffin wrote:oh, and supster, something you do has been bothering me for a while. Please learn how to spell words like "their" and "weird". i before e is not a hard and fast rule y'know.

for prompt attention please send all spelling corrections directly to [email protected]. thanks

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mezzmerized · Post by **mezzmerized** » Sat Mar 04, 2006 7:02 am

Can't we all just get along?