Discuss music production with Ableton Live.
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gomi
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by gomi » Tue May 16, 2006 9:21 pm
hoffman2k wrote:All i need now, is a (not so) poor sap to sell my g5 to
Damn you apple. To think i was willing to save up 3000€ for a mb pro....
I wonder what will be wrong with these books. I mean, it's too good to be true really

they have intel integrated graphics, that share your system memory
so be sure to get at least 1GB ram.
i'll have to have on in my hands first.
something about the keyboards just strikes me as uncomfortable.
http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=1748
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gomi
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by gomi » Tue May 16, 2006 9:23 pm
robtronik wrote:bigbadotis wrote:dude, one of those little dots next to the iSight *has* to be a microphone. I know it's not in the tech specs, but what's the point of providing an iSight for videoconferencing if you don't include a cheapo mic.
actually, taking a closer look at the specs, I think the mic is included as part of the iSight. That's why it's not listed in the audio specs.
Look at this picture:
http://www.apple.com/macbook/isight.html
the dot to the left is the mic.
its not. Its the LED light to let you know that the camera is on (or off if it isn't lit).
rob.
the green led to the right is the led
the dot to left is indeed the microphone.
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by robtronik » Tue May 16, 2006 9:28 pm
gomi wrote:robtronik wrote:bigbadotis wrote:dude, one of those little dots next to the iSight *has* to be a microphone. I know it's not in the tech specs, but what's the point of providing an iSight for videoconferencing if you don't include a cheapo mic.
actually, taking a closer look at the specs, I think the mic is included as part of the iSight. That's why it's not listed in the audio specs.
Look at this picture:
http://www.apple.com/macbook/isight.html
the dot to the left is the mic.
its not. Its the LED light to let you know that the camera is on (or off if it isn't lit).
rob.
the green led to the right is the led
the dot to left is indeed the microphone.
sorry, thought there was only one dot, not two.
rob.
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rbmonosylabik
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by rbmonosylabik » Tue May 16, 2006 9:30 pm
4onthfloor wrote:Can anyone tell me how crucial a 7200 RPM HD would be for running Live 5.2, seeing as it doesn't look like you can upgrade past the 120 5400 RPM on the 13.3?
Drive speed improves data transfer speed. For Live (and audio work in general) this is good because audio is streamed directly from HD (unless you stream it from RAM, which is faster, but way more scarce)
The faster the drive, the better
MBP 2.3 GHz i5, Live 9.6.1, Push, MPD32, Rane SL2
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by 4onthfloor » Tue May 16, 2006 9:36 pm
rbmonosylabik wrote:4onthfloor wrote:Can anyone tell me how crucial a 7200 RPM HD would be for running Live 5.2, seeing as it doesn't look like you can upgrade past the 120 5400 RPM on the 13.3?
Drive speed improves data transfer speed. For Live (and audio work in general) this is good because audio is streamed directly from HD (unless you stream it from RAM, which is faster, but way more scarce)
The faster the drive, the better
Right on rbmon. Could I still get by ok w/ the 5400 RPM, or should I just make sure to get the 7200? Much appreciated.
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by rbmonosylabik » Tue May 16, 2006 9:45 pm
Personally I wouldn't go below 7200, but you can always get an IDE drive and an IDE to FW/USB 2.0 adapter
MBP 2.3 GHz i5, Live 9.6.1, Push, MPD32, Rane SL2
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by richardl » Tue May 16, 2006 9:45 pm
Early reports indicate that the hard drive in the new MacBook can be easily upgraded by end users. As easy as upgrading RAM.
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by 4onthfloor » Tue May 16, 2006 10:10 pm
richardl wrote:Early reports indicate that the hard drive in the new MacBook can be easily upgraded by end users. As easy as upgrading RAM.
That would be the f*ckin' cat's pajamas. Thanks for the info guys!
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by kabuki » Tue May 16, 2006 10:12 pm
gomi wrote:hoffman2k wrote:All i need now, is a (not so) poor sap to sell my g5 to
Damn you apple. To think i was willing to save up 3000€ for a mb pro....
I wonder what will be wrong with these books. I mean, it's too good to be true really

they have intel integrated graphics, that share your system memory
so be sure to get at least 1GB ram.
i'll have to have on in my hands first.
something about the keyboards just strikes me as uncomfortable.
http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=1748
The way shared memory works, it is best to buy exact pairs of memory. 2 Identical chips. I did a bit of research on this for the MacMini (which has shared mem) and it is a HUGE help for video to have identical chips.
fyi
15" PB 2.5 Ghz, 4 Gig RAM, 750 GB HD, Live 9 still no cue points or program change messages?!?. Doesn't do shit.
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by beatnik » Tue May 16, 2006 10:18 pm
richardl wrote:Early reports indicate that the hard drive in the new MacBook can be easily upgraded by end users. As easy as upgrading RAM.
I doubt this would be covered under warranty though. Adding RAM is quick, simple and all you have to do is choose the correct memory.
With a laptop hard drive, especialiy in a MacBook (Pro) adding a drive isn't as simple due to heat constraints. Seagate do a 160GB 700rpm laptop drive, but that doesn't mean it'll work in any laptop. It may overheat in a MacBook or other type of laptop.
I'd stick with external drives when it comes to expanding drive space.
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gomi
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by gomi » Tue May 16, 2006 10:28 pm
richardl wrote:Early reports indicate that the hard drive in the new MacBook can be easily upgraded by end users. As easy as upgrading RAM.
it is, it's in a panel under the ram under the battery,
you can totally change it yourself on the macbook..
unlike the pro.
boo hoo
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by kabuki » Tue May 16, 2006 10:42 pm
BTW, External drives (Including FW400) have poor performance in Live. BAD Bottleneck. OK For the Studio, not good for live use.
Unless you load clips into RAM...
15" PB 2.5 Ghz, 4 Gig RAM, 750 GB HD, Live 9 still no cue points or program change messages?!?. Doesn't do shit.
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by chris vine » Tue May 16, 2006 10:49 pm
Machinate wrote:kabuki wrote:chris vine wrote:Don't want to wind the macheads up, but where can I get a PC laptop that has all those nice macbook/powerbook hardware attributes....sexy case, backlit keys etc but still runs windoze? I have too many plugs/apps that are PC.
I worked with a G4 Powerbook last year and liked everything about it except the OS........

apple.com
install Windows on it.
yeah man, BootCamp! Chris, which rock have you been hiding under?

Uhh a big one called windoze?
So how does well Windows run on these macbooks - anyone know?
I did like a lot of things about the Powerbook...just waiting for the right features for me to switch.........
Thankx for the replies, guys.
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gomi
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by gomi » Tue May 16, 2006 11:06 pm
chris vine wrote:
So how does well Windows run on these macbooks - anyone know?
I did like a lot of things about the Powerbook...just waiting for the right features for me to switch.........
Thankx for the replies, guys.
i have the pro 2.0ghz
and windows runs much much better on it then on my
P4 2.8 pimped out box.
the dual core is the bomb.
if you don't need to do anything with 3d graphics, then the macbook
is power enough for you. the advantage of the pro line is the ATI x1600
graphic chip with it's own memory (128 or 256megs depending on your
choice)
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by Danny Futuro » Tue May 16, 2006 11:10 pm
the apple website mentions NOTHING about battery life.
wtf?
Self-hating american.