No New DJ Tools????

supster · Post by **supster** » Mon Jul 17, 2006 7:52 pm

leisuremuffin wrote: this isn't directed to any individuals, but to griefers in general. I mean c'mon, live 6 isn't even in beta, and we already have to hear piles of horseshit.

thank you for representing all the reasons why threads become retarded on this board in one single post

*clap clap*

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leisuremuffin · Post by **leisuremuffin** » Mon Jul 17, 2006 7:52 pm

since i don't give a shit what anybody thinks of me here, i'll be the first to say shut the fuck up, supster.

.lm.

supster · Post by **supster** » Mon Jul 17, 2006 7:58 pm

hoffman2k wrote:I never said anything about trying to sway the developers for any kind of feature. Because i know it's impossible to include something in Live 6 when it's weeks away from hitting the market.

I also never said that guys like you aren't using Live in creative ways.

There are DJ types who are basically asking for traktor. Maybe not in the threads you read, but it's not a generalization, thats my point.

I read ALDJ (and other live forums), i can relate to not having the features i need. (Why do you think i keep coming up with workarounds?)
And it's understandable that some people are upset.
But people who think that a 50 person large company can turn out software like the big boys need a reality check.

One says Live isn't Live anymore, others say that DJ's weren't considered,.....
Then there are those who are happy about multicore, racks, video,......

There's always something good or wrong.

We could keep this debate up for ages if we really wanted to.

-Edit-- Missread the context a bit. But the post can stay.
Sorry if i angered you before you get to this bit
We more or less agree, both passionate enough to speak up.

Live can be used in so many ways. It can also be represented by so many persons.

no man im not angry at all!!

actually im never angry on here period
its just text, opinions come out blunt sometimes - no problem

in actual fact i consider you part of a very short list of people that i know of who are on the cutting edge of using this program and pushing it hard.

so its not like everything i post is aimed at you either, by a long shot

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Darrel855 · Post by **Darrel855** » Mon Jul 17, 2006 8:03 pm

http://www.m-audio.com/products/en_us/C ... focus.html Looks like it could be abletons little brother. VST support vinyl or cd control . Looks as if it has warp markers as well. Being that I use Ableton to produce and Traktor to DJ it seems to have everything people have been asking for in traktor with some of the functionality of ableton . There is a screen shot if you click in the bottom left corner.[/url]

thx1138 · Post by **thx1138** » Mon Jul 17, 2006 8:57 pm

leisuremuffin wrote:a lot of people here seem to have an inflated sense of self importance.

and/or are whiny little bitches.

Name and shame or STFU imo

supster · Post by **supster** » Mon Jul 17, 2006 11:07 pm

thx1138 wrote:
Name and shame or STFU imo

pretty much!!

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leisuremuffin · Post by **leisuremuffin** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 1:26 am

thx1138 wrote:
leisuremuffin wrote:a lot of people here seem to have an inflated sense of self importance.

and/or are whiny little bitches.

Name and shame or STFU imo

you neglected to quote the next line of my post, which stated it was aimed aat griefers in general.

motherfuckers havent even used the thing and are already slagging it for a million different reasons. or acting like their own pet wishlist items were the most important features to implement.

.lm.

ryansupak · Post by **ryansupak** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 1:50 pm

Hi LM:

Just out of curiosity, is it possible in your opinion for people to talk about shortcomings -- without it being the whining you're talking about?

Thanks,
rs

leisuremuffin · Post by **leisuremuffin** » Wed Jul 19, 2006 6:39 am

absolutely, of course, live can certainly be improved.

but it's just annoying to see a ton of headlines slagging a piece of soft that most of us haven't even used yet.

.lm.

AlexG · Post by **AlexG** » Wed Jul 19, 2006 8:49 am

A DJ should know ALL their tracks inside and out. They should know who produced it too, hell they should even know who was in the studio car parka t the moment the master was cut!

djshiva · Post by **djshiva** » Mon Jul 31, 2006 10:22 pm

AlexG wrote:A DJ should know ALL their tracks inside and out. They should know who produced it too, hell they should even know who was in the studio car parka t the moment the master was cut!

goddamn right...catalog numbers or STFU!

4rest · Post by **4rest** » Tue Aug 01, 2006 6:47 am

Live is a very diverse program with many ways 2 use it depending upon wht you mainly want to use it for.

I think the thing that would please just about everyone is a series of DVD tutorials each based on the different ways folks use live. One for Hip Hop & loop based music production, one for studio recording, one for DJing & creating mashups, one for Kid Beyonding aka alternative live triggering & performance, one for original sound and instrument creation & manipulation/experimentation, one for techno & glitch/IDM production, and one for whatever the hell else I've forgotten you can with this thing.

I'm willing to bet that your average live user uses it for only one of these things & knows 50% of how to do what they do with this program. If more folks knew more about what you can do in live then would probably complain less about what new features aren’t included for our specific use.

Creating music with live is journey unto itself (yeah I know lame).

Also like AdamJay said 6 is still in Alpha.

ABZurd

thats why we starting to video tape each months forums here in seattle

you can view last months one here
http://media.wavefront.cx/able_live/ABL ... 202006.wmv

i can't wait for the next one !!!!!
http://www.ableton.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=43018

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