battery vs impulse

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battery vs impulse

Post by eturnol » Sun Aug 27, 2006 8:25 pm

Hi, i have heard a lot about how good NIs battery is, but is it really necessary if you have Impulse? What does battery do better than impulse, and does it do anything that impulse can't?

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Re: battery vs impulse

Post by Lo-Fi Massahkah » Sun Aug 27, 2006 8:45 pm

eturnol wrote:Hi, i have heard a lot about how good NIs battery is, but is it really necessary if you have Impulse? What does battery do better than impulse, and does it do anything that impulse can't?
Battery does a lot that Impulse doesn't. Question is if it's anything you need. As far as I remember there's a demo of Battery available at NI. Try it!

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Post by djadonis206 » Sun Aug 27, 2006 8:47 pm

They're both great

a lot of people have touched on the subject

do a search like this battery + impulse + features

when I put that search in I got a thread with your exact same title

Impulse vs Battery <--click on it

may or may not have the answers you're looking for but you never know - check it out

I prefer SIMPLER over both fyi

peace


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Post by Sales Dude McBoob » Sun Aug 27, 2006 8:49 pm

Battery + Impulse...

Lately I find myself taking sounds from the Battery library and dropping them into Impulse. I like some of the sounds in Battery but I prefer the simplicity of Impulse.

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Post by djadonis206 » Sun Aug 27, 2006 9:22 pm

Yes, the battery kits are worth it alone - kind of, sort of

nice drums that's for sure
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Post by continuous » Sun Aug 27, 2006 9:55 pm

Something bout the sound of Battery I've always liked. I like to use both Impulse and Battery together on different tracks sometimes. Hopefully this isn't too inappropriate but I've a copy of Battery2 for sale...pm if interested.

Adonis, can you post a little on how you use simpler for beats when you get a chance?

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Post by Rogue Scrunt » Sun Aug 27, 2006 10:00 pm

I use impulse for drums. from whatever source i choose, mostly my vinyl collection.


I use battery 2, for chopped up vinyl sounds, also for large 808, 909, and other vintage drum machine samples. I made one big kit, with all my favorite vintage drum samples.


I use phatmatik pro alot also. I love the immediacy of it. Chops my vinyl sam[ples up automatically.

that is it for me. That is all I use, along with live5.

In a couple of months I will start enjoying simpler. not ready for that yet.

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Post by djadonis206 » Sun Aug 27, 2006 10:48 pm

Continuous

Pretty straight forward actually - one drum, one track one instance

For what ever reason I feel like I have much more control, it's more organized and keeps my midi files managable

Battery does have a very unique and cool sound though

but my experience is Simpler keeps it well, er um simple :)


OH YEAH, and plus when you drag bits and pieces of loops into SIMPLER you don't get that little tail end clip you get in Impulse <-- That's the actual reason i stopped using Impulse
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Post by Rogue Scrunt » Mon Aug 28, 2006 12:29 am

i never got the faulty clip in impulse, but all my sounds were edited in an external editor. (dsp quattro).

sounds like you will like the racks feature in v6



I will give simpler a try
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Post by continuous » Mon Aug 28, 2006 1:28 am

Thanks Adonis... makes alot of sense... and will "rack" nicely yes.

One thing about Battery that I struggle with is not seeing the sample names in the piano roll. Wish that wasn't the case. I can work "more intuitively" when seeing the sample names in the piano roll.

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Post by mr-e » Mon Aug 28, 2006 2:41 pm

- biggest advantage of battery is that it supports recycle files
- it's also handy only having to load 1 instance of battery with all drum sounds and assigning different outputs if you want to add effects in ableton

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Post by tylenol » Mon Aug 28, 2006 9:45 pm

mr-e wrote:- it's also handy only having to load 1 instance of battery with all drum sounds and assigning different outputs if you want to add effects in ableton
If I'm understanding this correctly (maybe not) you can do this in impulse too -- cf. section 12.7.5 of the manual for how (impulse offers each sample slot as a separate output, and won't mix a slot internally if some other track is receiving it.)

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Post by SonnyBonnier » Tue Aug 29, 2006 8:33 am

Battery consumes more cpu than impulse, but it has a lot of features Impulse lacks. Some of the Battery Kits released by NI is fantastic. But if you´re only making beats with a static kick, a snare and hihats; go for the impulse.

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Post by SonnyBonnier » Tue Aug 29, 2006 8:41 am

tylenol wrote:
mr-e wrote:- it's also handy only having to load 1 instance of battery with all drum sounds and assigning different outputs if you want to add effects in ableton
If I'm understanding this correctly (maybe not) you can do this in impulse too -- cf. section 12.7.5 of the manual for how (impulse offers each sample slot as a separate output, and won't mix a slot internally if some other track is receiving it.)
True. If an audio track recieves audio from one of the impulse slots, this sound is not mixed with the other sounds in the impulse track. So adding effects on individual tracks for different sounds in impulse is just as easy as in Battery.

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