[ Auto change Instrument and Patches ]

julienb · Post by **julienb** » Thu Sep 07, 2006 8:31 am

is there a possibility to program in clips or elsewhere a patch change??

it could be so useful !!!

rbmonosylabik · Post by **rbmonosylabik** » Thu Sep 07, 2006 10:10 am

PhilMul · Post by **PhilMul** » Thu Sep 07, 2006 8:15 pm

This allows you establish a patch change at the beginning of the clip. But, how can you make several patch changes within the clip? ...and then edit the envelope after you record and go in and change let's say the 2nd patch change from 37 to 85?

julienb · Post by **julienb** » Fri Sep 08, 2006 10:11 am

rbmonosylabik wrote:

hey !!! of course, I use it if I use an external synth program able to understand Program Change etc etc..

but what should we do for changing a patch of an operator with only BANK/SubBank/Program???

I think it is impossible...

PhilMul · Post by **PhilMul** » Fri Sep 08, 2006 2:48 pm

julienb wrote:hey !!! of course, I use it if I use an external synth program able to understand Program Change etc etc..

but what should we do for changing a patch of an operator with only BANK/SubBank/Program???

I think it is impossible...

I know how to do it!

Import the MIDI into Nuendo, Cubase or any other sequencer out there, use its list editor to edit the Program Change and then import to MIDI file back into Live!

This should only take about 5 minutes and another $300 - $2,000.

hoffman2k · Post by **hoffman2k** » Fri Sep 08, 2006 4:10 pm

Racks in Live 6

Crossfade from 1 preset to the other...

PhilMul · Post by **PhilMul** » Fri Sep 08, 2006 4:17 pm

hoffman2k wrote:Racks in Live 6

Crossfade from 1 preset to the other...

Now we're talkin'

julienb · Post by **julienb** » Fri Sep 08, 2006 5:51 pm

if "racks" => I'll upgrade!

frogger · Post by **frogger** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 7:29 pm

hoffman2k wrote:Racks in Live 6

Crossfade from 1 preset to the other...

I was just looking for the answer to how to do this the other day...
Nice one!!

Machinate · Post by **Machinate** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 8:44 pm

hoffman2k wrote:Racks in Live 6

Crossfade from 1 preset to the other...

I like this one more:
Turn knob to Switch between your favourite presets.

Or this one:
Set up clip envelopes to automatically switch between all the presets you need in a song.

julienb · Post by **julienb** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 9:47 pm

Machinate wrote:
hoffman2k wrote:Racks in Live 6

Crossfade from 1 preset to the other...
I like this one more:
Turn knob to Switch between your favourite presets.

Or this one:
Set up clip envelopes to automatically switch between all the presets you need in a song.

I have 7 instruments (ie tracks) in my live.
I have 10 or 20 or more songs in my live
7x10 = 70 patches
...and... I use an external controller (midi mapping)

I cannot use these technical tips...

That I would like to do is impossible for the moment... but i know that I'm not the only person who want to do this...

I'll continue by drag'n'dropping my patches, it works perfectly, even if it is a little bit annoying...

ciao²

Machinate · Post by **Machinate** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 10:02 pm

julienb wrote:
Machinate wrote:
hoffman2k wrote:Racks in Live 6

Crossfade from 1 preset to the other...
I like this one more:
Turn knob to Switch between your favourite presets.

Or this one:
Set up clip envelopes to automatically switch between all the presets you need in a song.

I have 7 instruments (ie tracks) in my live.
I have 10 or 20 or more songs in my live
7x10 = 70 patches
...and... I use an external controller (midi mapping)

I cannot use these technical tips...

In Live 6 you can. No problem. My set isn't as big (yet), it only has 4 synth racks with 5-10 synths in each. It works

julienb · Post by **julienb** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 8:20 am

My wish would be : makes a track only for "configuration/preset" (ie sysex tracks..)

On this track, I could create clips that could automatically change the patch of all my operator/simpler/impulse which are on the other tracks!

*But I repeat: the drag'n'drop method for changing sounds is cool yet... not the ideal, but it works (of course!)

hoffman2k · Post by **hoffman2k** » Wed Sep 13, 2006 6:37 pm

What you need is a combination of dummy clips and Live clips.

Check the live clips tutorial http://www.thecovertoperators.com/downloads.php

The dummy clips introduction http://www.teragon.org/wiki/index.php?title=Dummy_Clips

And a tips and tricks thread about dummy clips http://www.ableton.com/forum/viewtopic. ... highlight=

hoffman2k · Post by **hoffman2k** » Wed Sep 13, 2006 6:40 pm

julienb wrote:
Machinate wrote:
hoffman2k wrote:Racks in Live 6

Crossfade from 1 preset to the other...
I like this one more:
Turn knob to Switch between your favourite presets.

Or this one:
Set up clip envelopes to automatically switch between all the presets you need in a song.

I have 7 instruments (ie tracks) in my live.
I have 10 or 20 or more songs in my live
7x10 = 70 patches
...and... I use an external controller (midi mapping)

I cannot use these technical tips...

That I would like to do is impossible for the moment... but i know that I'm not the only person who want to do this...

I'll continue by drag'n'dropping my patches, it works perfectly, even if it is a little bit annoying...

ciao²

Keep the technique in mind for Live 6. Once you get the right mindset, you'll be able to make "modular" songs.
Modular in the sense: you'll be able to make a live set layout that can handle any song.
Perhaps even all your songs in one set.
Thats still experimental though