Ableton Forum

john gordon · Post by **john gordon** » Tue Oct 31, 2006 1:38 am

Socketeer wrote:Yeah he doesnt even mention ableton in that interview, he says hes using battery 2 and protools. Who cares what he uses anyway his new album was waste.

lol. i heard that.he is tryin to do what moby tried do.

stale bread · Post by **stale bread** » Tue Oct 31, 2006 2:34 am

dj superflat wrote:but you can't do with drums what you can do with the alesis pad or the MPC, and i don't see how the thing on which you hit pads makes much of a difference (other than it's likely easier to have better touch banging away with sticks (based on velocity, size of what you're hitting, etc.)). so i don't think it's at all like saying they should play drums, just that the way they interact with pads doesn't seem interesting to me (and if you can hit pads in time with your fingers, you can do it with sticks -- we're not talking paradiddles).

don't get me wrong, it's much, much worse when (e.g.) someone plays drums via a midi guitar -- there's nothing to see or relate to. with pads you kinda see it, but with drum pads you see the strike and it resonates with the sound, makes more sense for an audience. just my take.

i know what you're saying but a samplist is looking for something different in the feel of a percussive instrument than someone using sticks, a samplist is trying to feel the sample all the way through where by someone using drumsticks is more or less only concerned with the point of contact, I mayb have not articulated it well but most musicians like shadow, chemist and the like don't use sticks for a reason.

ikke · Post by **ikke** » Tue Oct 31, 2006 3:16 am

whatever dude uses .. his last album was utter trash
im not comparing to organ donor but to everything else he ever made... his corny housebeats ive got here on wax are better than the outsider

mouthster · Post by **mouthster** » Tue Oct 31, 2006 4:06 am

ikke wrote:whatever dude uses .. his last album was utter trash
im not comparing to organ donor but to everything else he ever made... his corny housebeats ive got here on wax are better than the outsider

no doubt

mercyplease · Post by **mercyplease** » Tue Oct 31, 2006 4:13 am

Patch wrote:
frisbeedisc wrote:shadow is ditching his mpc for live!!
For real?!? I can't imagine a more glowing endorsement for Live over the MPCs!

DJ Shadow uses Live!

But hes not using live is he, Hes using an mpc.

mercyplease · Post by **mercyplease** » Tue Oct 31, 2006 4:23 am

john gordon wrote:
frisbeedisk wrote:Did you read the article in future music - shadow is ditching his mpc for live!!
he doesnt come out and say it, but he must be refering to it eh?
so much for the mpc and live quantizing debate.

You think.

mercyplease · Post by **mercyplease** » Tue Oct 31, 2006 4:25 am

frisbeedisk wrote:Did you read the article in future music - shadow is ditching his mpc for live!!

Point directly to the quote where he said he is ditching the mpc for live. I can see hes not using it so much but I saw no mention of live. I do know that the stuff he has been working on the past two years has been pro tools.

mercyplease · Post by **mercyplease** » Tue Oct 31, 2006 4:26 am

frisbeedisk wrote:
Mag_Music wrote:
frisbeedisk wrote:Here is the scanned shadow interview for download:

http://download.yousendit.com/150550BB73E34220
That article doesn't say a word about that guy using Ableton Live; it says he's employing a live band on some of the tracks.
Yeah your right, but he's ditching it for the software path - protools - and im sure he'll be tweaking with live!!

your sitting there purely speculating and that gets right up my tosser mate.

b0unce · Post by **b0unce** » Tue Oct 31, 2006 4:27 am

ya, I saw him mention pro-tools too....
and by the way, his music turned to shit as he ditched the mpc - so I dont see it as an endorsement for ableton live - if he is indeed using that now.

whatever tho, he has a right to put out any kind of music he wants to.

mercyplease · Post by **mercyplease** » Tue Oct 31, 2006 4:28 am

frisbeedisk wrote:Did you read the article in future music - shadow is ditching his mpc for live!!

Im back again. I cant believe you came out with such blatant shite. Thats not speculation thats fucking rumour mongering. what a skanky little arse wipe you are.

mercyplease · Post by **mercyplease** » Tue Oct 31, 2006 4:35 am

b0unce wrote:, his music turned to shit as he ditched the mpc - so I dont see it as an endorsement for ableton live - if he is indeed using that now.

Yeh fucking aye man. I have a shit load of respect for the shadow and know his shit way better than those arse holes commenting. I should have said what you did bOunce but I didnt want to hurt their fucking fragile senses tonight.

Your so fucking right, the mans music is total shit now compared to what it usd to be. Its so fucking sad but i can empathise with him on this although he doesnt know why yet, hes thinking hes developing and shit. This is exactly why im moving away from ableton for sequencing, my shit was a hundred times better before. This all in one shit drains your soul like fucking dracula and sahdows shit is glowing testimony to that. NOT A FUCKING GLOWING TESTIMONY TO DAWs OR LIVE.
thanks for nudging me on this one bOunce I forgot where I was for a moment.
So yeh
If Shadow did switch to live it will destroy him completely.

mercyplease · Post by **mercyplease** » Tue Oct 31, 2006 4:42 am

dj superflat wrote:i think it'd be more fun to watch if they were banging on one of those alesis drum pads with sticks (using your fingers can't match the precision you get with sticks, let alone the sheer joy of banging away).

\

still looked a lot better than a specky mask wearing geek behind a computer with a mouse in his hand

punkdISCO · Post by **punkdISCO** » Tue Oct 31, 2006 8:54 am

mercyplease wrote:
b0unce wrote:If Shadow did switch to live it will destroy him completely.

..or give him a new and exciting approach to composing that might spark some gems.? Besides, tools don’t make the music. Shadow will do his thing regardless of if its on a MPC/Live/Logic/Tape recorder..

frisbeedisk · Post by **frisbeedisk** » Tue Oct 31, 2006 10:56 am

You do some good by scanning an article about shadow going live..and people slam it back in your face....wtf!!!!!

robin · Post by **robin** » Tue Oct 31, 2006 11:18 am

frisbeedisk wrote:You do some good by scanning an article about shadow going live..and people slam it back in your face....wtf!!!!!

He isn't going Live he's going live. Notice the capitalisation.